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  Watchtower Philosophy Debates

  by Wild_Thing in

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  i was wondering how many of you still enjoy (or maybe you just feel the need) to discuss and debate jw doctrine and scripture.

  i find myself scrolling right past those topics i see online.

  i could care less.

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  waton

  woj:-- guess what, just browsed through tomorrow's wt, October 2017 and it is all about the meaning of 2 mountains, 4 horses, and ladies with stork wings* (I kid you not) from Zechariah's prophecies. Meaning assigned to even to the lead in the lid.

  * wt upsets ancient myths. I knew storks brought babies, but ladies with stork feature? new to me!

  ps: two such delivery stork-like ladies, carrying not a baby, but full grown women, in a partial lead container to Babylon. (almost as bad as a lead Zeppelin)
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  Assembly day Cleveland Ohio (Willoughby ass. Hall) results

  by nowwhat? in

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  1300 attendance 11 teenagers baptised (.85 growth) $12,000 expenses.

  biggest facepalm moment- teenage pioneer says she pioneers because "the overlapping generation is getting up there in years ,so time is short" as the saying goes "those that don't know history are doomed to repeat it".

  very mind numbing day nothing you haven't heard a hundred times before..

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  waton

  Very odd for a person that has not seen 1975 to be concerned about the overlapping generation.

  A typical overlapping generation member as exemplified by Frederick Franz & successor is not "--getting up there in years.--", and would be only ~ 46 years old today. That teenage pioneer is well placed to see the 2075 centennial happening, when the date for Franz's newer candidate comes to pack in.
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  Mid-Week Circuis Serpent's "Talk"

  by FedUpJW in

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  so i suffered through another one of these idiotic "encouraging" talks by tony vives.. he prattled on about loyalty, and pretty well concentrated on three areas.

  loyalty to ones marriage mate, which is no problem.

  if one is married they really do owe loyalty to their husband or wife.. second, he hammered on "loyalty" by having nothing to do with a df'd family member, even a child!

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  waton

  FUJ: --"He prattled on about LOYAL --- to ones marriage mate.

  he failed to mention the many cases where untoward conduct by imaginary alpha males and females in the congregations can test this owed loyalty unnecessarily. Case in point: David, who had Bathsheba picked up by a posse of his men, because he was tired of his other wives perhaps, and it is not recorded that she screamed or tried to fight to her death.

  Loyalty to mates challenged by those that are disloyal to their baptism vows. See the resulting. wt disfellowshipping statistics.
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  March 2018 Study Watchtower

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the first study article is about getting bible studies and children baptized.

  there is much more emphasis placed on parents to get their own children baptized rather than focusing on bible students.

  they try to impress on others the need for urgency.

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  waton

  This implies the publications are law. They are not, jp1692

  but, nothing shuts up an elder quicker than being shown that his action is out of thep with a given publication, date and page cited. I kept photocopies of juicy items in the front and back covers of my bible. and

  P.S. wt wants you to confine any arguments to their publications, and not verify them indpendantly with the scriptures that everything is supposed to be based on, but isnt.
  
  
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  Candidate for the Governing Body???

  by DATA-DOG in

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  dd 😎.

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  waton

  this guy who was describing Bathsheba: picture from wake up.

  He needs dentures. sign of old age. Seniors are greatly helped by young chicks, singing the praise.
  
  
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  More significant than Paul's hair

  by Doug Mason in

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  far more important than worrying about whether paul's head was hairy or if he was an egg-shell blond, is to be concerned about what went on inside that skull between his ears.. paul was never a christian.

  he was a jew before he became aware of jesus the anointed (christ) and he remained a jew after his confrontation.

  throughout his life paul was a jew living in a gentile world.

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  waton

  It always seemed strange to me, that the most prolific writer to the congregations, would not be a member of the the "Governing Body", more like a free lance contributor, and now all of them are not even members of the 1919 wt Faithful and Discreet Slave!

  DM: nice critique of that portion of the talking snake collection! seriously.
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  March 2018 Study Watchtower

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the first study article is about getting bible studies and children baptized.

  there is much more emphasis placed on parents to get their own children baptized rather than focusing on bible students.

  they try to impress on others the need for urgency.

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  waton

  Black sheep, good to read you again! 60s? cold war? Reading wt articles is like the CIA and armchair spies then trying to decipher USSR trends by reading between the lines of "PRAVDA" The "truth" newspaper in Moscow.

  WT tea leaf reading It is a favoured sport here. exposing wt lingo for what it is.
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  Watchtower Philosophy Debates

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was wondering how many of you still enjoy (or maybe you just feel the need) to discuss and debate jw doctrine and scripture.

  i find myself scrolling right past those topics i see online.

  i could care less.

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  waton

  My interest in these topics is only to expose the wt as wrong, with humour if possible. Mental gymnastics for my aging mind's sake too.

  commenting, not endorsing.
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  Watchtower Philosophy Debates

  by Wild_Thing in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was wondering how many of you still enjoy (or maybe you just feel the need) to discuss and debate jw doctrine and scripture.

  i find myself scrolling right past those topics i see online.

  i could care less.

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  waton

  TD, but JWs seem to be good at navelgazing, not being able to see beyond their wt- defined realm.

  wild_thing, thank you for starting this, I took the de-bate-s. Perhaps only simpletons stick to the dry doctrinal matters, like the current 2018 March wt mag Bible references.
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  Know any Spiritual Vampires?

  by new boy in

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  the multimillionaire spiritual vampires from california.. i was at brother vampire’s house drinking his cheap wine when his roof was being repaired that day.

  i had refereed a young newly married brother who was a roofer to fix brother vampires roof on his million dollar house.

  they just had a baby and were as poor as dirt.

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  waton

  at least he got 20 bucks, on a wt project he would have gotten zilch.

  Local example: among the multi millionaire jws in this neck of the woods is one with a vacation home in Southern California, among other things, he had a poor, elderly sister come in and cook for him and his invalid wife for free (you have to show true christian love by deeds) right? entitlement!

  Vampire are not conscious of the fact that they might be doing anything wrong. no conscience.

  PS: The couple might not have deliberately thought of humiliating, or exploiting the poor, but the me first attitude allowed that situation and wt's.