waton

Joined

• started 99 topics
• posted 5,466 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by waton

• 
  25

  YPA change of picture

  by dozy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  anybody got any idea why the cover picture on the young people ask book was changed?

  they removed the picture of the boy bottom right & superimposed a different head.

  maybe the guy got dfd or maybe it was to change it to an asian guy rather than 2 caucasians?

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  waton

  Young people are asking the right questions. the only answer wt has, is to erase their memory. but

  I would guess appearances count. Asa on the ascent.
• 
  50

  The wonder of scientific research

  by amicabl in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this has possibly been brought up before however here goes.. constant reference is made by many posters to scientific research as being the only way to prove something factual that would otherwise have to be taken on faith.

  there actually seems to be "faith" in scientific findings.. my experience over many years is that most scientific research is fake.

  nothing oftencomes of the big announcements made to raise more money.. money, prestige, pride, human error, suppositions etc., are rife amongst the scientific community.. i realise that there have been many advances over hundreds of years but humankind is in a mess, although very different to even a century ago.. the medical profession now has vaccinations for everything, antiviral drugs etc.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  waton

  "...Most of the scientific achievements of the 20th century were a direct result of military funding...." truth be known

  tbn: but that is not the fault of science or scientists. Mankind is fighting the wrong war. it should be attacking, eradicating ignorance.

  Von Braun would have been happier, and we all, had he been generously funded by a global "Manhattan" project (separated by the East River from Brooklyn).

  We might in the process have developed a chemical shield that stops cancer, and allows us to travel to Mars sane and hale.

  Science allows us to ask better and better questions. the answers are cream on the pudding.
  
  
• 
  50

  The wonder of scientific research

  by amicabl in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this has possibly been brought up before however here goes.. constant reference is made by many posters to scientific research as being the only way to prove something factual that would otherwise have to be taken on faith.

  there actually seems to be "faith" in scientific findings.. my experience over many years is that most scientific research is fake.

  nothing oftencomes of the big announcements made to raise more money.. money, prestige, pride, human error, suppositions etc., are rife amongst the scientific community.. i realise that there have been many advances over hundreds of years but humankind is in a mess, although very different to even a century ago.. the medical profession now has vaccinations for everything, antiviral drugs etc.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  waton

  amicable , You are not talking about scientific research, pure and simple, but about the human side of it. That is like the wt illustration in the wt's "--bible teach" book which denies that a pupil can improve of the understanding of an aged math teacher.

  Look how far we have come from the time that our common ancestors were swinging in the trees.

  Exploring at the limits of our confined world, can only improve our understanding of any possible beyond:-- in time, energy, laws and dimensions. Revealed religion has not even come close, still stuck in thousand year old myths, fables and stories or their variants.

  Remove all application of scientific research from your life, and see where you would be. dont let the Pilt downs get you down.
• 
  3

  Truth is not unattainable

  by venus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  seeing corrupt rulers creating war to divert attention of the public, almighty arms industry loving conflicts, religious leaders finding religions as a means for easy income ….etc one may conclude that truth is not attainable.

  yet there is a place where truth remains hidden for the seeker to experience his thrill—in the vocabulary of different languages.. when i was studying in mount holyoke, i had the opportunity to mingle with many foreign students and thus to my surprise came to know certain words are like a treasure of truth in at least one language among the vast reservoir of languages which means you have to continue your search for the truth of one word till you get it through different languages.

  for example, take the word ‘king’ and start seeing the meaning of it in all the languages and you will find it means a person ruling with dynastic root, then suddenly you find in one language, the word ‘king’ is the summarized form of this sentence: “one who brings delight to all of his subjects and keeps them (of various interests) reconciled to each other.” to mention a few other words which my search took me to the truth:.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  waton

  +.... mind can be tricked by what physical eyes see,---"

  Venus, that is why we need better and better spectacles, aka scientific research tools , to see the spectacular creation we live in, and perceive the hints that a possible creator left imbedded in his work. and

  as your op showed, The languages in which we think have interesting insights; -- my pertinent favoured, toward the end of my 9st decade:

  "Dying", in german showing the root and cause, starving. "sterben"
  
  
• 
  35

  One Question to ask any JW that will blow their end times out of the water

  by maccauk in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ask any jw this one question.

  are there any apostles from the 1st century still walking the earth alive today ?.

  100% will say there are no apostles from the 1st century alive today.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  waton

  he was not left behind, to the contrary, , he went ahead, when he "found himself in the Lord's day" that started in 1914. listening to the trumpets, appointing of the FDS...
• 
  6

  WTBTS and donations - do you remember this gem?

  by Tallon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  no organisation can operate without funds - that's a given.

  however, when it comes to 'suggestions' on how one can make donations to support the org with its aims they are on a higher level.

  in light of the recent video whereby they are looking for donations for a disaster fund, do you remember this gem from yesteryear?.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  waton

  In a "Kingdom Ministry" a while back there was a reminder to executors of estates, , that any items willed ro the Society should be handed over. Evidently not just the corporation is benefitting the harvest.

  When thinking about wt legal work, their in house trained lawyers, think money matters. it does.
• 
  27

  ''This good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth FULL STOP''- Matthew 24:14. JW ORG

  by ThomasCovenant in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi.

  only just noticed on the jw borg home page that matt 24:14 is quoted with a full stop instead of a comma after the word earth then the closing quotation marks.. isn't that incorrect?.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  waton

  by claiming to be the sole dispenser of "spiritual food" since 1919 that frees them from anything published prior to that, potentially that covers ~ 6000 years of human bibliical history. Only their word matters for jws now. no w ay.
• 
  20

  How do they get away with "New Light"?

  by moreconfusedthanever in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one thing that bothers me greatly is the fact that they can change their policies and beliefs and just say its "new light" and no one bats an eyelid.. there are many scriptures such as isaiah 40:8 "the word of god will last to time indefinite.

  " or hebrews 6:18 "it is impossible for god to lie".

  if he is "spirit directing" the borg then there should be no need for new light..

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  waton

  The problem with new light is not that there is new fields of knowledge that are illuminated. new facts discovered, but that wt claims their current knowledge is of divine origin, biblical (inspired) and holy, (spirit directed).

  The Bible teach book to which content have to ascribe to or baptism, teaches that the wt teacher has the last laugh at the blackboard, teacher gives the marks. truth or not.
• 
  27

  ''This good news of the Kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth FULL STOP''- Matthew 24:14. JW ORG

  by ThomasCovenant in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  hi.

  only just noticed on the jw borg home page that matt 24:14 is quoted with a full stop instead of a comma after the word earth then the closing quotation marks.. isn't that incorrect?.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  waton

  Wt is preaching the middle kingdom.

  1) not the one of Colossians 1;13, --3) Not the 1000 year kingdom rule of Christ, , but

  2) the kingdom of 1914, lasting only to the millennium, currently predicted to end not later than 2075. nowhere to be directly found in scripture.
• 
  20

  How do they get away with "New Light"?

  by moreconfusedthanever in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  one thing that bothers me greatly is the fact that they can change their policies and beliefs and just say its "new light" and no one bats an eyelid.. there are many scriptures such as isaiah 40:8 "the word of god will last to time indefinite.

  " or hebrews 6:18 "it is impossible for god to lie".

  if he is "spirit directing" the borg then there should be no need for new light..

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  waton

  How do they get away with disfellowshipping members for pointing out the flaw in the old "new light" and then, when that has been rescinded, not giving credit for the warning and automatically re-instating the whistleblower (latter day Joseph really) with honors?

  This is going to come back and bite them, as it did the starving, humiliated 10 other brothers. . - if there was truth a talking snake story.