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  What was the biggest thing that convinced you that

  by Ponyo in

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  .....the truth was not the truth... ?

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  The flip flop in the 1960s, back to the original pre 1929 "Superior Authority " teaching that hit me within an hour. I just had a "home bible study" with a Baptist that resisted the wt interpretation, called the wt error, and that very day the wt subscription had arrived, declaring him right me and "Let God be True" wrong.false. from then ir was downhill. Bible research

  Big factor was the 144 000 misreading of Rev 7. The 12 tribes each are bigger than just that number. There are more "Spiritual Israelites" than just 12x12x10^3. and then came power abuse, favouritism and Gen 1:1, the talking snake. kiddy stories that's all. Now:

  The good news of the overlapping generation kingdom will be preached in all nations, and then ?
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  Trivial stuff about the AGM

  by sir82 in

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  lots of good comments already about the content of saturday's agm broadcast.. i just thought i'd add my (trivial!

  ) comments about the magnificent 7:.

  -- loesch - was he intentionally trying to be boring?

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  Loesch is Austrian, served in the Southern Alps, looking toward Italy and sunny. The Manhattan skyline, across the East River from Columbia heights, , with buildings crumbling to the ground, the UN, not an encouraging sight, when in his home country the hills are alive with the sound of musik. ha ha.

  his mid week's meeting has him give a talk on Daniel, it would even put the Lions to sleep in the den.
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  Using history as a means to pinpoint possible future events.

  by HealthySkeptic in

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  the purpose of this thread is to share some history with the community.

  i am an active jw.

  the reason i picked this forum is due to the openness and ease with which information can be accessed.

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  Die Glocke. This was a device that could levitate when powered on. When WWII came to a close the project wat???

  Das Glockenspiel ha ha.
  
  
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  Using history as a means to pinpoint possible future events.

  by HealthySkeptic in

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  the purpose of this thread is to share some history with the community.

  i am an active jw.

  the reason i picked this forum is due to the openness and ease with which information can be accessed.

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  The arms of the galaxy are in turn moving around as well. Its like a beautifully orchestrated ballet.

  HS, I know you do not like the negatives, but the arms of the galaxies are almost stationary, standing waves. it is the material that is orbiting the center, and moving through them.

  Fits your analogy though, certain features of history remain, different entities, empires move through the same stages, pressures, creations, etc. interesting.
  
  
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  AGM - Are they now teaching predestination?

  by Doubting Bro in

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  another agm thought.

  in tight pants tony's part, he mentioned several times that jehovah draws those he chooses and only those rightly disposed would come in.

  and individuals that liked the literature but made no progress towards becoming jw were a "waste of time".. was he setting the stage for them introducing the thought of predestination?

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  Every result is preceded by a cause, so in a short time span, pre-destination may be true.

  I do not think D.S. relishes having to front for wt doctrines. One can develop a serious case of Foot in Mouth disease from that. He looked so uncomfortable in front of the generation chart that illustrated the absurd overlap, but in the process showed the blunder of contradicting Math 24: 34, showing the predestined demise of the partakers, before the generation goes off the chart, as it is supposed to.

  Videos like that are a permanent record of your personal failings. you make them at your peril. no more anonymity for wt contributors.
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  AGM - Are they now teaching predestination?

  by Doubting Bro in

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  another agm thought.

  in tight pants tony's part, he mentioned several times that jehovah draws those he chooses and only those rightly disposed would come in.

  and individuals that liked the literature but made no progress towards becoming jw were a "waste of time".. was he setting the stage for them introducing the thought of predestination?

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  JWs report free slave time because that is the only charitable works the society can show .

  People with a certain rior mindset would be receptive to become witnesses, it is not predestined. H2H work on saturday, Sundays anois people enogh, and stresses the preachers to weed out weaklings.

  The cliques in the congregations really despise the "other" ones that "Jehovah" is supposed to have chosen.
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  The gervais principle and jehovah's witnesses

  by wannaexit in

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  this chart says it all.

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  (the Lot's Wife horror scene being played to children's at conventions comes to mind), and

  yeah, wait until they play the whole story to the end, 3 some incest and all. I am glad to have walked out of "dramas " with silly arm waving for years
  
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  The gervais principle and jehovah's witnesses

  by wannaexit in

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  this chart says it all.

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  combine the Gervais principle with the one of Lawrence Peter, and everything becomes possible at the top, and that is only the tip of the iceberg.
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  The gervais principle and jehovah's witnesses

  by wannaexit in

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  this chart says it all.

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  The anscious expression of David Splane is caused by his fear that you might discover the real reason for the overlapping scenario, the elephant in the background chart.

  The sham of the sheep generations.

  Jesus said the generation would not die or pass away before, or until all has occurred. so:

  If it is the "anointed" sheep generation, they must die before the end, not after.

  If it is the "other" sheep, are they not supposed to pass away too, after all occurred; as prophesied?*

  D.S lied. if he knew that, hence is ansciety ---., if not , "god" help them all.

  * last verse says the sheep ''go off into everlasting life, but it also says the generation will pass away,. everlasting life only in the afterlife?

  The tip is showing.
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  January 2018 Watchtower

  by Listener in

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  the cover page shows a photo jws loading a small plane with watchtower literature to take to a remote area in bolivia.the first study article introduces the 2018 year text isa.

  40:31 "those hoping in jehovah will regain power".

  according to them, you may leave home to do field service or attend a meeting feeling exhausted but you return home refreshed and 'jesus' yoke is kindly indeed!

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  The Yeartext is actually a fulfilled bible prophecy, namely motorless human flight, rising to ~16 km. higher than a passenger jet.

  Fulfilled by those that hope, are confident that they have figured out, applied the creator's laws, use of his energy.