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  What really should be the role of Women in the congregations?

  by Old Navy in

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  the presumably "biblical" practice of limiting the way women participate in congregational matters of the wtborg cult inc. (as well as certain other sects of christendom) may be a gross mis-interpretation of what paul meant.

  i'm inclined to agree completely with this account of what paul really meant.. thoughts anyone?

  aren't women more deserving of greater participation and respect?.

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  waton

  Decorating the religion with their beauty, attracting male converts by their eagerness to mate , because of the dearth of "MS at 23 brothers", providing the offspring that now makes up the bulk of baptism candidates , knock some sense into their husbands, the hormone - driven younger woman, comply silently with ! Cor 14, 34---, I Tim 2: 11 ---,

  Having the privilege,yes, monopoly, of perpetuating the most inteligent life in the universe we know, what more could you want? having men on knees in front of you, what more do you want?
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  The "circle" of the earth

  by stillin in

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  a fair bit of time was spent discussing the (one) scripture in the bible that "proves" that when the bible touches on scientific subjects, it is absolutely correct.

  this was at the most recent clam meeting this past week.

  from isaiah, the reference to the "circle" of the earth.

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  waton

  Verse 22, round disk horizon? wt would have been better of to settle for the stretching of the gauze of the heavens, akin to the expansion of spacetime, or the quasi prediction of motor less human sailplane flight, just recently setting an altitude record of ~ twice the heights of Everest, like an eagle, without flapping it's wings.

  The bible has 3 or 4 lucky hits among its ~50 000 verses.
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  Governing Body of Pharisees

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1qqef4vifauxvdqrd8oemaue-4mjf2xh8-dt94-qvsbm/edit?usp=sharing.

  governing body of pharisees.

  alexander (the great) and his army swept through palestine on his way to persia.

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  waton

  thanks, these ideas were elegantly put. so you wrote on a sabbath? cant be a pharisee?

  who are the remnants of the Sadducees then?
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  Signs that the last days really are here

  by Half banana in

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  not for the world but for the watchtower cult.. .

  what happens to organizations which are on the decline?

  what are the signs of impending doom?.

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  waton

  There has been an solar eclipse on this planet on going for more than a billion years.

  but the stunning spectacle is only understood by astronomers for a few thousand, and will not continue for billions more (the moon will become too small). without protective gear the ancients could only with difficulty have figured out what caused the darkness, who would suspect the the moon to be up in the daytime, in the glaring sun?

  An eclipse is one of those bible "miracles" we can look with awe at now, unless you consider jesus the first surfer, barefoot no less, ha ha.
  
  
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  Signs that the last days really are here

  by Half banana in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  not for the world but for the watchtower cult.. .

  what happens to organizations which are on the decline?

  what are the signs of impending doom?.

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  waton

  while trying to keep my mind off the fog in this week's meeting, I leafed to page 224 of the kingdom rule book and there is a picture of an eclipse as a "sign from heaven" preceding the end.

  watchtower's warts aside, theres was one , across the US and will again be in 7 years, and it does not stop there. (speaking from being there).

  I would advise to proceed with caution on minimizing a possible end scenario. It is not that the whole bible fiasko can be sanitised with current events, but taking one thing at a time, things could develop into another above, past wt scenario.
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  "Prayer" and answers to it , positive / negative ,or is it all in the mind ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  speaking from my own experience and that of my family of wife and two now adult sons do not believe that prayers to jehovah /god are answered .. so it must also be true of all other religions and their believers also.. my wife and i were jw`s for 33 years and and i don`t believe anyone prayed harder than my wife and i at various trials we faced during those times in those 33 years.. we may as well have been like the present day jews who pray to a brick wall .

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  waton

  There are several paragraphs in the upcoming wt "study" that suggest you to have personal mental games with invisible persons dead or alive.
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  You'll Never Forget Fata Morgana!

  by compound complex in

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  what my friend photographed while we were viewing the pacific ocean:.

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  waton

  When I watch the sun sets on the horizon of the cold water body of water that my house overlooks, the shape of the perfect circle is always deformed, sometimes suspended, once it looked like a stack of plates,

  should have counted them and see whether it relates to events in my life. , but not telling, enough other reasons t get a reputation to being odd. ha ha.

  reflection and reflection of different substances at different temperatures are understood, but conditions that arrive are too complex. Think of the proverbial butterfly in the Amazon triggering a hurricane.
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  No shame in being apostate

  by venus in

  1. watchtower
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  the one who is standing away is apostate (literally "to stand off," from apo- "away from" + stenai "to stand").

  ironically, proponents of untruth may call truth-seekers as apostates, thus making the term meaningless.. for example, paul, the greatest of all apostles, taught untruth (stood away from truth) [see his main teaching in romans 5:12-21] even though he had known the following truths:.

  1) all humans did not become sinners through one man (genesis 5:24; job 1:8; psalm 18:23; ezekiel 14:14 and compare habakkuk 2:4), hence there was no need for anyone to pay ransom.. 2) in the old testament, the messiah refers to a “prince of peace” who literally rules from jerusalem, not merely anointed to the office to do the work in some distant future and get killed before that future occurs.

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  waton

  today's apostasy is tomorrow's truth. long live apostates and apostasy. aka advancement.
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  Seeking Riches That Are True

  by NJ501 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  your thoughts on today's watchtower?.

  can you explain?.

  how can material possessions be used to strengthen our friendship with god?

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  waton

  wt is seeking the riches that are true, that are real, real like real estate. in return they offer a hope, based on a talking snake, that they can never fulfill. had your fill?
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  JW`s Lie about Christendom hiding the Name Jehovah.or its equivalent Yahweh

  by smiddy in

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  jehovahs witnesses have been outspoken over the years/decades that christendom have been hiding or obscuring or even eliminating gods name jehovah from the general public.. how true is that statement .?.

  1. it was a catholic monk of the 13th century that first coined the name jehovah in the english language.. 2.the roman catholic douay version of the bible does have the name jehovah in it.

  about the 16th century.

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  waton

  The Catholic Douay Bible ,Exodus Ch.6:3 In a footnote acknowledges Jehovah as Gods name.

  smiddy, The French Catholic Lienard bible uses " Yahweh" throughout the OT.