via the Severn estuary. On the journey home, the ferry was packed with JW's and the talk was of little else.
sb: At that time there were two waves surfed on the Severn, the tidal bore coming in, and then the big wave that swept through the "waters" of the wt domain, energising the people, and giving wt a good, surprising ride.
Posts by waton
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91975 - JWs in other countries, not just the U.S. also knew about the prediction
by deegee ini have been wondering, if the 1975 prediction was just a rumour started by the rank & file as the wt claims, then how did jws in other countries, a part from the u.s., also come to know about the prediction?.
i started studying with the jws during the 80s when i was a child.
while attending one of my first meetings during that time, a brother commented during the wt study that armageddon did not come in 1975 because it was not known how many years after adam, eve was created.. at the time, i hadn't a clue what the guy was talking about.
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Of all the bible characters would you like any as a friend ?
by Chook intax collector guy might help out..
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Joseph, the quintessential whistleblower. I like to let him loose in the WTBTS. like one of the 12 , I mean 7, or 8, hear his story, and how wt deals with him. and then
the seven coming crawling back, begging for food at the proper time. .......
ps: remember he got 2 tribes in the Rev. 7 line up as a reward for such un-organisation-like behaviour, putting truth, freedom of expression over solidarity. Having such a friend would give you bragging rights in the cong, better than having b&bd a GB member.More importantly,
Joseph's example might induce others to come forward with goodies, being tempted by getting 17 % votes in the general meeting. or the equivalent of choice.
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1975 and the burning question/s??
by UnshackleTheChains inok. so i'm sitting there at the convention.
the video comes up about 1975 and the fact that the faithful brother in the video maintained his faith in the bible by adhering to the scripture that says:.
'no one knows the day or the hour as to when the lord is coming'.
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This "overlapping annointed" idea was to cover our tracks for the 1914 "generation", which we used to keep the hype going post-1975. Problem is, now the annointed are increasing we're realizing that the "144,000" isn't literal. Each new "solution" creates another problem, you know what I mean?
AnthonyMtT: yeah, This 1975 video could be a wt tactic like the ink puff of an octopus, creating a false target in the hope to escape. Wt getting away with past ink?
More than 144 000 partakers before 2075? of course, it is not that the number is not literal, it is that the whole Other Sheep, partaking, "Israel of God" definition is wrong, and irrelevant. stay spiritually strong!
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Hey "faithful slave," when did Jesus become king?
by The Fall Guy inw78 3/1 p. 18 par.
15 - "when was god’s son made a king-priest like melchizedek?
this was 40 days after his resurrection from the dead, [33 c.e.
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Colossians 1:13 affirms the existence of "--the kingdom of the Son..."
The invisible kingdom is not even of WT originality.
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Happy birthday Watchtower!
by Half banana injust before the month ends i would like to congratulate the watchtower magazine for completing its run of 138 years of publication.
the first copy was printed july 1st 1879. well done watchtower!.
as a reminder, let people remember that in its time this magazine has one of the world’s largest print runs for a periodical.
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waton
failing fiction
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1975 and the burning question/s??
by UnshackleTheChains inok. so i'm sitting there at the convention.
the video comes up about 1975 and the fact that the faithful brother in the video maintained his faith in the bible by adhering to the scripture that says:.
'no one knows the day or the hour as to when the lord is coming'.
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waton
The 1975 seed that wt planted lead to an amplification of JW lives already in progress.
1) the committed workers did everything to "hasten the day" divest, pioneering, move to where the "need is great"
2) the Enjoyers, even bought stuff, life styles on credit , that they thought they would never have to repay, or recuperate.
3) the now labelled "spiritually strong" hedging their bets, within the org. did everything, maneuvered to come out of the debacle, the inevitable fallout ... ahead of the game. or
variations of the above, like the types that divested and bought a pad in the location where it would be nice to start life in paradise, and overseers were needed too.
The message from the 1975 video, and David Splane's overlap flap?
Do not take the details too seriously, strengthen the org, your position, 2075 will come and go too.
The "soon" is thrown in to pacify the spiritually, materially or organisationally weak, or the sick and dying.
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1975 and the burning question/s??
by UnshackleTheChains inok. so i'm sitting there at the convention.
the video comes up about 1975 and the fact that the faithful brother in the video maintained his faith in the bible by adhering to the scripture that says:.
'no one knows the day or the hour as to when the lord is coming'.
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waton
Tony, thanks for the clear citations, so, you were among the spiritual strong that did not take the then published data seriously.
Do you have problems with the spiritual strong that do not take the current wt hype, overlapping anointed, seriously today?
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Finds in Jerusalem shore up biblical account of Babylonian conquest (586 BCE date)
by Hecce inthis is a nice article about archaeological finds, what caught my attention is the use of 586 bce as the date for the destruction of jerusalem.. according to biblical descriptions, in 586 bce, the babylonian king nebuchadnezzar vanquished the judaean king zedekiah and razed his capital city, jerusalem.
the babylonian captain of the guard nebuzaradan was dispatched into the city, where, as told in the book of jeremiah, he “burned the house of the lord, and the king’s house; and all the houses of jerusalem, even every great man’s house, burned he with fire.”.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/new-jerusalem-finds-shore-up-biblical-account-of-babylonian-conquest/.
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waton
what a chore trying to shore up, support or suppress?
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The words I refuse to use
by Chook innew system, brother, sister , kingdom hall, wordly person, in the truth .
there is a whole jw language that has to be deprogrammed..
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"The Name" in prayer, Jesus did not. If you have to pray, to a possible creator the most truthful you can do is say "father" mother? life giver.
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1975 and the burning question/s??
by UnshackleTheChains inok. so i'm sitting there at the convention.
the video comes up about 1975 and the fact that the faithful brother in the video maintained his faith in the bible by adhering to the scripture that says:.
'no one knows the day or the hour as to when the lord is coming'.
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It's absolutely crazy for wt to bring up this failed prophecy,
Chook you would think so, but they did, so, why? because
WT knows that at the centennial, 2075, the overlapping anointed generation will turn out to be a failed prophecy too, assuredly, because it already has, no need to wait.
Following the logic in the 1975 video, the spiritual strong don't believe a word of wt's words.