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  Was told I was not progressing!

  by Overrated in

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  you're doing everything you can, meeting attendance, field circus, helping out where you can and you are told your not progressing!?!

  as anyone had that happen to them in the "trooth "?.

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  waton

  not kowtowing to the bullish elders enough? nose not enough to the grinding wheel or other brown places?
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  Calgary Alberta Canada new mayor elect Jyoti Gondek

  by hoser in

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  this will be an entertaining 4 years.. she already declared she wants to shut out oil and gas in an oil town and says she will refuse to swear in a duly elected councillor tomorrow..

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  is there not a venue, the stampede, where there is lassoing, roping in, and tying up events?
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  Butchered pronunciation

  by road to nowhere in

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  since it is my turn (wife) to have the assembly streamed they start with the music.. i have never in 70 years heard it called a "pree-lood".

  twice, morning and afternoon..

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  waton

  massage du royaume. kingdom massage. what a mess.
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  What Happens When You Ask Too Many Questions?

  by cameo-d in

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  dorothy kilgallen was a fearless journalist who broke major stories, and was the only reporter to interview lee harvey oswald's killer, jack ruby.

  her biggest case yet -- investigating president john f. kennedy's assassination, and finding fault with the official story -- became the last one she ever pursued.

  she died mysteriously in november 1965, after being threatened, but the cops never probed further.. .

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  waton

  Joseph, son of Jacob, the quintessential whistleblower, nearly got himself killed by his brothers. the rest is history. believe it or not.
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  The Anointed fight during the memorial celebration?

  by waton in

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  the last wt magazine on the memorial asserts, that the kingdom covenant was the prime subject of the solemn last supper bread and wine ceremony.

  here was the sobering passing of the bread of wine, symbolizing the new covenant, forgiveness of sins for all.

  here was the symbolic undoing of the talking snake's viles, the reversal of the misery and death of billions, but .

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  waton

  Until one reads Acts 2:38, 39. (Also Jn 1:12; 3:3, 5)

  Bc: what do make of the fact, that the kingdom covenant recorded in Math. 19, and Luke 22, was never part of the "Blood of the [new} covenant" ceremony? and
  

  talking of reading Acts of the Apostles, there is no record they did the memorial on the following passovers, Peter was freed from prison, but no mention of him missing the bread and wine under the full moon.
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  The Anointed fight during the memorial celebration?

  by waton in

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  the last wt magazine on the memorial asserts, that the kingdom covenant was the prime subject of the solemn last supper bread and wine ceremony.

  here was the sobering passing of the bread of wine, symbolizing the new covenant, forgiveness of sins for all.

  here was the symbolic undoing of the talking snake's viles, the reversal of the misery and death of billions, but .

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  waton

  Yeah I saw your point. I was making another.

  Jerry h, your post makes a good connection, but I wanted to keep hammering on the fact that the kingdom rule covenant ( produced twice) was not part of the Bread and Wine Ceremony.

  wt used both baptism and memorial as control mechanism.

  the immersion of "other sheep" : making them subject to the present organisation.

  memorial abstention " " " : making them slaves for another 1000 Years, working for their salvation, that could have come automatically, symbolically by accepting the ransom symbols.
  

  
  Paragraph # 12. wt wants jws to invite the whole world to their "We will rule the world " celebration. unlike Jesus who kept the number of participants to a bare minimum, 12 for 12 thrones., when at least 500 "brothers" were ready for action at the time.
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  The Anointed fight during the memorial celebration?

  by waton in

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  the last wt magazine on the memorial asserts, that the kingdom covenant was the prime subject of the solemn last supper bread and wine ceremony.

  here was the sobering passing of the bread of wine, symbolizing the new covenant, forgiveness of sins for all.

  here was the symbolic undoing of the talking snake's viles, the reversal of the misery and death of billions, but .

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  waton

  Jerry h : the point was, that the kingdom covenant was not part of the Jesus bread and wine ceremony.

  wt baptism is wrong because it includes organisation

  wt memorial is wrong because it limits partaking,
  
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  The Anointed fight during the memorial celebration?

  by waton in

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  the last wt magazine on the memorial asserts, that the kingdom covenant was the prime subject of the solemn last supper bread and wine ceremony.

  here was the sobering passing of the bread of wine, symbolizing the new covenant, forgiveness of sins for all.

  here was the symbolic undoing of the talking snake's viles, the reversal of the misery and death of billions, but .

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  waton

  The last WT magazine on the memorial asserts, that the Kingdom Covenant was the prime subject of the solemn Last Supper bread and wine ceremony. well, -- no, --think about it,

  Here was the sobering passing of the bread of wine, symbolizing the new covenant, forgiveness of sins for all. Here was the symbolic undoing of the talking snake's viles, the reversal of the misery and death of billions, but

  incredibly, later, during that moonlit night, a fight broke out among the 12, ( 12 thrones to fill) who would be the greatest. -- really.

  Only in response to this, does Jesus assure them again that indeed, they would rule in the kingdom.

  That sorry episode was not part of the Memorial ceremony. The kingdom covenant not part of the bread and wine passing.

  wt knows that the bread and wine should be partook by all. In paragraph 4 the writers cagedly put the Kingdom covenant in capital letter beginning, the new covenant as ordinary, just minor part of the text.

  You thought the Catholics were wrong to withhold the wine for communion? wt goes all the way, making sure the ransom, the New Covenant does not apply to you, because you refused the symbols, as per wt instructions.
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  Watchtower January 2022 The Memorial

  by Listener in

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  next years memorial article focuses on the two class system that they promote.. interestingly, they mention how the anointed are in two covenants.

  the new covenant and the kingdom covenant.

  they claim that both of these covenants opened up the way for a small number to become kings and priests in heaven.

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  waton

  Reading this wt work of art, I am sure the writing committee knows that the Corporation is in deep trouble over the covenant and partyaking / everlasting life business.

  par 2 "keep doing this" but at the last supper all partook, and none of them was anointed, even Jesus, who was, expressed earthly hope wording. ( drinking wine in heaven, again? )

  Par 4, asserting that Jesus "concluded" 2 covenants at the Last Supper, by saying he "spoke of 2 covenants"

  Jesus had earlier, in Mat 19:28 promised them to " sit on 12 thrones, judging the 12 Tribes of Israel" in response to their anxiety over how the sacrifices of "service" were to be recompensed.

  At the last supper again Jesus rolled out the kingdom promise,/covenant to assuage their ansciety as to whom was to be the greatest,

  This fight of theirs, the kingdom promise was not part of the last supper/memorial celebration, ceremony . but

  wt writers put the Kingdom covenant beginning with a Capital letter , the all important new covenant pushed into near obscurity, de-emphasised, blending into the text.

  The scriptures consistently speak of the blood/wine, bread / flesh as the NEW COVENANT symbols.

  By these tactics, wt shows they knows now, that they have deceived the R&F by this switch, denying them the public act of accepting the ransom.

  You think the overlapping group is funny, wait until wt has to come clean on this.
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  Watchtower January 2022 The Memorial

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  next years memorial article focuses on the two class system that they promote.. interestingly, they mention how the anointed are in two covenants.

  the new covenant and the kingdom covenant.

  they claim that both of these covenants opened up the way for a small number to become kings and priests in heaven.

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  waton

  They claim that both of these covenants opened up the way for a small number to become Kings and Priests in heaven. I don't think they've been so specific about this before.

  L. They never clearly mentioned the function of the new covenant as being for "forgiveness of sin" in their memorial talks, and surreptitiously slipped in the "Kingdom covenant" as being symbolized by the emblems. not so. biut

  of course you can't go to heaven soiled with your humanity, but wt denied the ransom symbols to almost all jws by erroneously claiming the bread and wine substituted for personal sacrifice, the axing of your head. Rev. 20.

  all should partake, only few will use the freedom to levitate.