regarding what some have said here about the wt being a false prophet.. i would like to make my point regarding the wt not being a false prophet... so please, if you can be patient enough to read this, at least try to understand what i am getting at.. a false prophet is one who, according to deuteronomy, makes a false prediction of the future and claims that the prediction came from god, or in other words claiming that 'god has said he will do a certain thing at a certain time' etc.. for example, hypothetically speaking, if someone had claimed: "god will bring about the end of the world in 2010", they would have been proven to be a false prophet, obviously.
but, as an example, imagine a man who claimed the position of a prophet of god, (as moses did, because although he was not the type of prophet that predicted the future.. he was still a prophet or spokesman for god) and that he had publicised worldwide, according to his interpretation of a (for example) prophecy found in the book of isaiah, that the world would end in 2010.. and he had also stated that he was not saying that god will end the world in that year.. but only that there was biblical evidence that god might do so.
that would clearly have been a mistake.
The " --MILLIONS NOW LIVING WILL NEVER DIE" that wt started to talk about in 1918, requires at least 2 million baptized and faithful jws to be present and be preserved at Armageddon.
If they existed, they would be 103 year old today. in 2034, 120 years past the enthronement in 1914, the age will be 116.
millions? may be 1 or 2, but not baptized witnesses. Lets face it,
By supporting, joining wt, you make yourself part of a false prophet entity.
regarding what some have said here about the wt being a false prophet.. i would like to make my point regarding the wt not being a false prophet... so please, if you can be patient enough to read this, at least try to understand what i am getting at.. a false prophet is one who, according to deuteronomy, makes a false prediction of the future and claims that the prediction came from god, or in other words claiming that 'god has said he will do a certain thing at a certain time' etc.. for example, hypothetically speaking, if someone had claimed: "god will bring about the end of the world in 2010", they would have been proven to be a false prophet, obviously.
but, as an example, imagine a man who claimed the position of a prophet of god, (as moses did, because although he was not the type of prophet that predicted the future.. he was still a prophet or spokesman for god) and that he had publicised worldwide, according to his interpretation of a (for example) prophecy found in the book of isaiah, that the world would end in 2010.. and he had also stated that he was not saying that god will end the world in that year.. but only that there was biblical evidence that god might do so.
that would clearly have been a mistake.
the mistake they made in the 1920s (or 1930s) up through the mid-1990s about the great crowd already existing.
DJ, wt falsely prophesied, in those days. that the Great Tribulation that started in 1914, stopped in 1918/19, and will start again at Armageddon., allowing the Great Crowd to come out during the hiatus.
wt is forced into more false prophecies, because of the old false prophecies,
50 people that were living in 1909 are still alive today btw.
wt wants the generation of 1914 to end soon.
but making the generation anointed contradicts jesus.
jesus said that the end generation would pass away after all these things, including armageddon has occurred so, when will the wicked ( non wt believers) pass away?
is worth less than the ink used to print it.
B. of course, since the whole concept has as a foundation the talking snake story.
However, it is worth its weight in gold when showing the folly in wt's promise of everlasting life in paradise for the current generation alive, tied to the 1914 kingdom rule. so:
Here is the scenario for a 1 123 year long lasting wicked generation in current wt doctrine.
Really old ladies in 4 care homes, in Southern France, Sardinia, Okinawa and Loma Linda*, give the "proverbial cup of water" to jw caregivers, or visitors, so as to get their assured "prophet's reward." (Math.10:42)
They were babies in 1914, now feeling satisfied near their 120 birthday celebration . . Medical art has improved, the year is 2034.
Armageddon strikes, and despite the candles on the cakes, they must be shielded as per bible promises.
They navigate successfully the new laws in the "new scrolls" of the wt millenium, but find themselves in the four corners of the Earth, during the "final test", sympathising with the dissenters there. As a generation that saw all these things occuring and more, they die, looking like teenagers, like Eve. There it is,
the 1 123 year old wicked generation, better than the overlapping anointed, already false wt prophecy.
* A stronghold of a "Babylon the Great" branch.
wt wants the generation of 1914 to end soon.
but making the generation anointed contradicts jesus.
jesus said that the end generation would pass away after all these things, including armageddon has occurred so, when will the wicked ( non wt believers) pass away?
The final lot of 'anointed' JWs will not pass away, they will be changed in a twinkling of the eye
L: When the scriptures say " will not pass away' i take that to mean from the earthly scene, the domaine of the living actors. and
in case of the "anointed" pass on to their heavenly reward .
whether it happens in Planck time, they have passed from here to there.
taking it all , including the talking snake , seriously here, for argument's sake,
wt wants the generation of 1914 to end soon.
but making the generation anointed contradicts jesus.
jesus said that the end generation would pass away after all these things, including armageddon has occurred so, when will the wicked ( non wt believers) pass away?
wt wants the generation of 1914 to end soon. always has. but making the generation anointed contradicts Jesus. because
Jesus said that the end generation would pass away after all these things, including Armageddon has occurred so, when will the wicked ( non wt believers) pass away? well,
according to wt, living past Armageddon, you are in paradise, 1000 years without dying. The crunch comes with the post millennium final test. ca 3075 CE. again:
The end generation can not be the anointed because they have to die before Armageddon.
but once past Armageddon, as Jesus predicted, the wicked, hiding wickedly, could last another 1000 plus years, no overlapping needed. 3075 here they come.
and dont say the generation are the sheep, wt says they will never die, but Jesus said the generation will pass away.
and dont say it can't happen, it can, because all rebels at that time will be ex- citizens of the 1000 year wt reich,
with all its benefits, perhaps 1000+ years old. how else would they get there?
a 1000 year long generation, no overlap needed.
the september 2015 broadcast had david splane explain matthew 24:34 “truly, i say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place”.
his explanation of this scripture was by means of a chart to indicate an overlapping generation.. .
no scripture was used to show the overlapping generation concept, and as a result it makes no sense.. to illustrate how crazy this concept is, look at the lyrics of the song my generation.. my generation.
Perhaps 2075 or 2114
Vdh; RIGHT, thanks for the correction. but
thinking about it though, those that will come through the GT, or be resurrected, and then die after the millenium, in the final rebellion,
about 3075, will indeed be a lasting generation. no overlap needed. spanning 3 millenia, still a lost generation, if wt would be right for once, finally.
1914, 1975, 2075, 2114, 3075
YOUR PROMPTING DESERVES A NEW TOPIC, imho.
each eye-opener in my awakening had nothing to do with apostates.
it was always by looking directly at the so-called spiritual food that helped me awaken.. in 2019 they changed the wording of the second of two baptismal questions which are answered aloud before the audience.
now i realize that these questions have been adjusted over the years.
wt never claimed being HS, holy spirit directed, so they removed the other one.
the september 2015 broadcast had david splane explain matthew 24:34 “truly, i say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place”.
his explanation of this scripture was by means of a chart to indicate an overlapping generation.. .
no scripture was used to show the overlapping generation concept, and as a result it makes no sense.. to illustrate how crazy this concept is, look at the lyrics of the song my generation.. my generation.
120 year life limit of Noah's generation....as in the days of Noah?
Vh: The max human lifespan still is 120 years. Fr. Franz, cited by D. Splane was almost ~100, with ~ 80+ years in the "truth". D. Splane mentioned, that older anointed than that late wt leader could exist, to make up the 2 overlapping groups. so, do the math, let that sink in.
2 hundred year old old timers, --, total 200 years, overlapping by 20 years each, like Franz, would be 160 years of consecutive life. then added to 1914 gives a 2075. Armageddon date.
There were a few 120 year olds around, not wt anointed of course, but , having them seen as overlapping groups, would bring wt to 3014.
2075, 3014, nice wt failure centennial, bicentennial coming up. soon.
did you ever reach a point in field service , you knew you were lying to people ?
just before the pandemic , i had an encounter with a witness and i didn't let on who i was or my past.
i just very politely listened to his nonsense.
New Scientist Magazine:
Dogs will ignore you if they know you are lying, unlike young children
Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2284611-dogs-will-ignore-you-if-they-know-you-are-lying-unlike-young-children/#ixzz71HS8Mvtq
but Jesus said to get into the kingdom aka wt land, you have to become like young children, gullible. that explains it.
did you ever reach a point in field service , you knew you were lying to people ?
just before the pandemic , i had an encounter with a witness and i didn't let on who i was or my past.
i just very politely listened to his nonsense.
What does the Watchtower now say God's name means?
tbn, either just wt, or "I can turn myself into anything I want", like the super janus, 4 faced creatures on the chariot.
