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  Jehovah`s Credentials Fail or Pass

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  judging by jehovah gods past dealings with the israelite / jews , i wonder why anybody can take seriously anything that he has promised for the future .. or is it what humans want to believe he has in store for them ?.

  during jehovah`s dealings with the israelites they had a leprosy colony in their midst .he didn`t do anything about that .. they had wars that he instigated and supported and people died on both sides of the wars.

  israelites as well as the enemy.. he accepted slavery ,did nothing about it .

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  waton

  yeah, we have to pry the answers out of nature by ourselves, by flying sky cranes to Mars for example.
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  Changes In Canada

  by LetTheTruthBeKnown in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i am surprised no one has mentioned what is going on in canada.. maybe they have but i missed it.

  so here are some of the facts as i know them.

  ontario only.. sault st. marie had their six congregations whittled down to two.

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  waton

  they've been shrinking them in Niagara too. multiple congregations are now sharing the same hall and just having meetings on different days.

  road to nowhere+:

  now, in different ways, zooming . No more driving for the 90+ olds at night. and,

  how about the ZOO in zooming? bigger elder bodies, the few biggest bullies grinning, and more long faces among the many.

  May be in Ingleside (dairy country) the cream rises to the top, but it is the frothy stuff, organisation men somewhere else.
  
  
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  The "faithful and discreet slave class" - Past, Present and Future

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  iv) believe that jesus christ is mediator for "the faithful and discreet slave".

  today, that "slave" is represented by the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  5. elders.

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  waton

  Van der Hofen, thank you for that tabulation. These are the tip of the iceberg of the "anointed" generation of 1914

  "This" wt generation , when overlapping F. Franz , will not pass away, until the end occurs. That will only happen, when they appoint a new member that was born after 1972; seven years younger than Sanderson. of course.

  As David Splane said, some other anointed,( the submerged portion of the iceberg, the old slave class ) , might have some even older (and odd and stubborn characters ) than the nearly 100 year old Fred Franz among them,.

  so:, Not the above set of actors, but the next appointees might well be the ones that will take the overlap to 2075. As is already the case in the general overlapping population anyway.
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  The "faithful and discreet slave class" - Past, Present and Future

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  iv) believe that jesus christ is mediator for "the faithful and discreet slave".

  today, that "slave" is represented by the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  5. elders.

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  waton

  V: behind every successful male stands a female, ( a pleasantly surprised one )

  Jesus: " whoever want to be first among you, must be YOUR slave. " did you know JWs are slaveholders?
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  The JW cult creates pessimistic personalities in all the PIMI congregants is my opinion

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am not saying all jw congregants are pessimistic, but i would go as far to say all pimi jw congregants are pessimistic.. why do i say this, my wife is my measuring stick.

  she has barely an optimistic bone in her being.

  she will only focus on the bad parts of anything.

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  waton

  it started at the doors for many, talking about the "problems in the world today" and then having to go d2d and talking about the new "problems in the world"
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  God defeats whole armies, but couldn't defeat '' the men in Iron chariots''

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  judges 1. .

  new international version.

  israel fights the remaining canaanites.

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  waton

  If there is a creator, or user of eternal energy, the bible certainly paints a good caricature of him/her. and

  perhaps israel was still achin- from Achan heavy metal hidden somewhere/
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  Do We Get A Clean Slate When We Die? (Watchtower View Examined)

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower teaches that the opportunity to be born again and enjoy complete justification with god ended in 1935, having been limited to only 144k since pentecost.

  so, it is very surprising that the watchtower embraces the death that is described in romans chapter 6, since this is the very death that is required to be born again…… which is denied to watchtower members!

  romans chapter 6, verse 7 is about saying goodbye to the old personality, the “old man” in the king james version.

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  waton

  no god existed to start the big bang - or at least that none was needed to start the big bang).

  djw: perhaps, , but you needed energy, which is uncreated, and a lot of it.

  interesting point about the wine. why should the grapes be fermented, but the bread not?

  Bachus a bible influence?

  afterthought: since we are discussing "sin" good thing the original sin was not refusal to procreate, and pass that pleasure on. and:

  when I am dead, I will definitely not sinning, misbehaving.
  
  
  
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  What Song Reminds You The Most of Your JW Experience?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what song takes you back there?.

  here's mine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brb7rupqtsg&ab_channel=danielaaguilar.

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  waton

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  showing my age, past 90, and a tribute to the ladies in my life, thank you for the 2 compliments.
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  What Song Reminds You The Most of Your JW Experience?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what song takes you back there?.

  here's mine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brb7rupqtsg&ab_channel=danielaaguilar.

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  waton

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEm7nlfIN-Q
  
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  Looking Back Were There Any “Apostates” In Your Congregation?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i remember knowing some jws that expressed their own personal viewpoints regarding what a scripture meant that was at odds with society teachings.

  in the 60 and 70’s, that was pretty much tolerated until the great purge in 1979 and 1980. as a matter of fact, it wasn’t unusual for witnesses to get together and discuss personal questions and viewpoints they might have.

  it wasn’t unusual to send letters to the society asking what was considered the right or wrong view.

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  waton

  those who leave for the reason of 607 been wrong

  j: that would be erudite nitpicking, but a good excuse to lead the good life.

  even "Jesus" remarked about such ones" -says to himself: the lord is late in coming so---