as a jw did you have a pioneer sister/elder's wife who was the biggest busybody, self righteous, arrogant pus in the circuit?
who would look down on others and treat people like crap.. without giving to much away, i experienced one that knew everyone in circuit.
and if she or her husband saw or heard something they didn't like it was " you know what the bible says" regardless if it was in there or not.
The Flood of Noah's day just is hard to explain and does not make much sense scientifically. And don't get started on God, to me it's right up there with the tooth fairy.
Or, sorry, I mentioned the flood only to indicate that The judgement of gehenna is just as real as the talking snake, and the Everest covering waters.
Some elders wives kept a pretty low profile. I do think they had a huge influence on their husbands.
m: right there were some decent humans among the lot, but not a lot.
as a jw did you have a pioneer sister/elder's wife who was the biggest busybody, self righteous, arrogant pus in the circuit?
who would look down on others and treat people like crap.. without giving to much away, i experienced one that knew everyone in circuit.
and if she or her husband saw or heard something they didn't like it was " you know what the bible says" regardless if it was in there or not.
The JWS religion is full of self righteous arrogant people, right at the very top of the organization as well.
Rm: what do you mean self- righteous. It is not their fault that the deity appointed them.
as a jw did you have a pioneer sister/elder's wife who was the biggest busybody, self righteous, arrogant pus in the circuit?
who would look down on others and treat people like crap.. without giving to much away, i experienced one that knew everyone in circuit.
and if she or her husband saw or heard something they didn't like it was " you know what the bible says" regardless if it was in there or not.
The bible has a question for people like that:
"how are you going to escape the judgement of gehenna." now,
If archeologists could only find a talk enabled snake fossil in the mud deposits left by the deluge up in the Himalayas.
does anyone have 1945 wt 8/15/45 p. 253i'm looking for confirmation of where the wt reportedly states that jehovah is only jw's "prospective" father.
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just as an outlier: when Jesus issued the instruction for the "Our father prayer" (Cath)
he was talking to people who were not "anointed". he did not say your : "future adoptive father" , or "father in law" . by the same token,
he passed the bread and wine, according to wt practise reserved for the "anointed", as an outward mark of their status, to the same people, who were not "anointed"
wt confuses the new covenant, with the kingdom covenant. really sloppy concordance reading.
They do not baptise new members in the "name of the father" either.
JWs are taught to wait for the future, slave on, their present live, unfulfilled, belongs to JWORG.
i am friends with an elderly 'worldly' woman, who was unaware i am an ex-jw.
she employs a jw husband and wife pioneer couple for odd jobs around her house- mowing, cleaning etc.
the couple has been working for her and her recently deceased husband for years.. just before the 2019 international convention, despite the fact that the husband was fighting his last battle with illness, the couple kept asking him to attend the convention with them.
that lady was nothing more than a potential convert
SB and as such, "counted" as a backcall, return visit, and hours in the "field" ministry. Pioneer hours on pay.
i don’t care about politics, books you are reading, movies and tv programs you’re watching, etc..
JJ, but in the big schemes of things, , do not consider it as time wasted because you traveled under wt auspices. consider it part of your formation and build on it.
what is the purpose?
the skits are not real.
i have been assigned a reading again.
wt has stopped training young new, non-elder family speakers.. talent does not count, is seen as a threat.
jan. 15, 1960 wt.
page 53.
"since the supreme judge never makes a mistakes, there is no need for him to take under.
i dont think poor old Onan stands much of a chance either.
sld: right, with adulterers fornicators too not inheriting god's kingdom, even lookers not escaping gehenna, unless they pluck out their right eye,
A high priority is put on proper reproduction.
A & E, even if resurrected, will not have kids again. no kidding.
to be fair : that is true in evolution too. breed well or vanish. not just sem-entics
a friend is trying to figure out the approximate date or letter, which indicated a change from the wording of public announcements.. they changed from saying the person has been disfellowshipped to saying that a person was no longer one of jehovah's witnesses.. i thought it was around the time of the bulgaria scandal.. could you help us out to remember when this change took place?
if we could remember the approximate year, we could look up all the boe's for that year and might find the letter.. many thanks!.
atlantis!.
I have no answer for you. I was only trying to answer the OP question
tbn: thank you. I tried to broaden the scope of "the loving provision" discussion. . Probation, private reproof, was not announced I guess. I do not remember it to be covered in the earliest elder, CO. special classes.
jan. 15, 1960 wt.
page 53.
"since the supreme judge never makes a mistakes, there is no need for him to take under.
Today's watchtower study reiterated, that here is no resurrection for A & E because they deliberately sinned. (were deliberately deceived.) but
did they not die for their sins? so are now even steven. so: why would they not qualify for another chance to work on it with knowledge, hindsight?
Wt writers deliberately put forth anti-biblical prophecies, even predictions, if/when they die, would they not qualify for a second chance too?
Some of the examples in the article could die 3 times, lie Lazarus et al, died once adamacly, died again because of inherited "sin", would be resurrected, and could rebel "after the thousand years are ended" , and die then finally for good or bad.
That is a bad story , 2 resurrections, 3 times paying for your "sins" and still a goner.
