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  Looking For WT Quote

  by Sea Breeze in

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  2. bible

  does anyone have 1945 wt 8/15/45 p. 253i'm looking for confirmation of where the wt reportedly states that jehovah is only jw's "prospective" father.

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  waton

  just as an outlier: when Jesus issued the instruction for the "Our father prayer" (Cath)

  he was talking to people who were not "anointed". he did not say your : "future adoptive father" , or "father in law" . by the same token,

  he passed the bread and wine, according to wt practise reserved for the "anointed", as an outward mark of their status, to the same people, who were not "anointed"

  wt confuses the new covenant, with the kingdom covenant. really sloppy concordance reading.

  They do not baptise new members in the "name of the father" either.

  JWs are taught to wait for the future, slave on, their present live, unfulfilled, belongs to JWORG.
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  A 'typical JW' story

  by joey jojo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am friends with an elderly 'worldly' woman, who was unaware i am an ex-jw.

  she employs a jw husband and wife pioneer couple for odd jobs around her house- mowing, cleaning etc.

  the couple has been working for her and her recently deceased husband for years.. just before the 2019 international convention, despite the fact that the husband was fighting his last battle with illness, the couple kept asking him to attend the convention with them.

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  waton

  that lady was nothing more than a potential convert

  SB and as such, "counted" as a backcall, return visit, and hours in the "field" ministry. Pioneer hours on pay.
  
  
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  Can we stick to topics that we came that we came to this forum in the first place?

  by James Jack in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i don’t care about politics, books you are reading, movies and tv programs you’re watching, etc..

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  waton

  JJ, but in the big schemes of things, , do not consider it as time wasted because you traveled under wt auspices. consider it part of your formation and build on it.
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  Ministry school

  by road to nowhere in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what is the purpose?

  the skits are not real.

  i have been assigned a reading again.

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  waton

  wt has stopped training young new, non-elder family speakers.. talent does not count, is seen as a threat.
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  Will Adam Eve be resurrected? If not why? WT tell us.

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jan. 15, 1960 wt.

  page 53.

  "since the supreme judge never makes a mistakes, there is no need for him to take under.

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  waton

  i dont think poor old Onan stands much of a chance either.

  sld: right, with adulterers fornicators too not inheriting god's kingdom, even lookers not escaping gehenna, unless they pluck out their right eye,

  A high priority is put on proper reproduction.

  A & E, even if resurrected, will not have kids again. no kidding.

  to be fair : that is true in evolution too. breed well or vanish. not just sem-entics
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  Changed From "Disfellowshipped" to "No Longer One of Jehovah's Witnesses!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a friend is trying to figure out the approximate date or letter, which indicated a change from the wording of public announcements.. they changed from saying the person has been disfellowshipped to saying that a person was no longer one of jehovah's witnesses.. i thought it was around the time of the bulgaria scandal.. could you help us out to remember when this change took place?

  if we could remember the approximate year, we could look up all the boe's for that year and might find the letter.. many thanks!.

  atlantis!.

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  waton

  I have no answer for you. I was only trying to answer the OP question

  tbn: thank you. I tried to broaden the scope of "the loving provision" discussion. . Probation, private reproof, was not announced I guess. I do not remember it to be covered in the earliest elder, CO. special classes.
  
  
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  Will Adam Eve be resurrected? If not why? WT tell us.

  by James Mixon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jan. 15, 1960 wt.

  page 53.

  "since the supreme judge never makes a mistakes, there is no need for him to take under.

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  Today's watchtower study reiterated, that here is no resurrection for A & E because they deliberately sinned. (were deliberately deceived.) but

  did they not die for their sins? so are now even steven. so: why would they not qualify for another chance to work on it with knowledge, hindsight?

  Wt writers deliberately put forth anti-biblical prophecies, even predictions, if/when they die, would they not qualify for a second chance too?

  Some of the examples in the article could die 3 times, lie Lazarus et al, died once adamacly, died again because of inherited "sin", would be resurrected, and could rebel "after the thousand years are ended" , and die then finally for good or bad.

  That is a bad story , 2 resurrections, 3 times paying for your "sins" and still a goner.
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  Changed From "Disfellowshipped" to "No Longer One of Jehovah's Witnesses!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a friend is trying to figure out the approximate date or letter, which indicated a change from the wording of public announcements.. they changed from saying the person has been disfellowshipped to saying that a person was no longer one of jehovah's witnesses.. i thought it was around the time of the bulgaria scandal.. could you help us out to remember when this change took place?

  if we could remember the approximate year, we could look up all the boe's for that year and might find the letter.. many thanks!.

  atlantis!.

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  waton

  truth_b_known

  where in that, does " on probation" come in? somebody that could convince the elders that she was already repentant enough? without being subjected to the loving provision of disfellowshipping?
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  Changed From "Disfellowshipped" to "No Longer One of Jehovah's Witnesses!

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a friend is trying to figure out the approximate date or letter, which indicated a change from the wording of public announcements.. they changed from saying the person has been disfellowshipped to saying that a person was no longer one of jehovah's witnesses.. i thought it was around the time of the bulgaria scandal.. could you help us out to remember when this change took place?

  if we could remember the approximate year, we could look up all the boe's for that year and might find the letter.. many thanks!.

  atlantis!.

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  waton

  That must have the day the lawyers got the upper hand at headquarters. when love died.

  https://youtu.be/RU769ErbfxU
  
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  Corpus Christi KH For Sale

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.remaxcommercial.com/?p=findahome.asp&listing=true&mlsid=3307&mlsnumber=359222.

  looking through the pictures of the interior sent me into a panic attack.

  when i was a kid, i would literally have to get stoned everyday to deal with their tyranny.

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  waton

  I don't remember Halley comet. Well, I do but it is a foggy memory.

  SB: Your memory is good. I had prior memories of Halley's from a film about

  Mark twain who is reported to have seen it twice., it comes every 75 years.

  so , on padre island minus the glorious movie music, even through a telescope it really looked like a cottonseed ball with its dark center. by comparison, I saw Hall several nights in the clear ocean air from the balcony of a house on a pacific island I was able to buid, because I had escaped the wt special pioneer mill in time.

  A sight that would dispel any doubts that there is more to creation than talking snakes.
  I recommend eclipses too.

  In April 8 2024 there will be one over upstate NY. do not miss it.