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Posts by waton
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Refusing to become an elder
by ragingmad ini know someone who's family is very spiritual and says that her brother only pioneers and does not want to become an elder for various reasons, probably not wanting to deal with people's problems, and also the tremendous workload they put on them.
is this considered refusing advancement by god, or just choosing your own way?
he has not been "tapped" to become one, but he merely hasn't strived to become one..
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Book of Revelation
by Whynot inone of the things that really bothered me is how most of the book of revelation isn't understood by most jws.
most of the trumpets were already sounded many decades ago, is that still right?
it seems like most jws just look the other way.
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waton
we found ourselves in the wt Lord's day that started in 1914. 1919 was added since (F7DS appointment), overlapping generation aka 2 witnesses update?
New generation not interested anymore. Baptism without mentioning wt doctrines in preparations.
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JW Elder quits & sends 900 emails
by snare&racket inan elder in quebec, has just quit as a jw.
he did so by emailing nearly a thousand jw’s with the explanation for why he and his family are quitting.. i have spoke to him quite a bit, interesting guy.
he’s quite the loss to wt, he’s an elder with a serious career in chemistry, a professor no less.. catch his story here, apologies if this has already been posted;.
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waton
Was there not a previous thread on this, with elaborations on the wt inconsistencies he just barely touched?.
welcome back S&R,
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Suman Virk - mother of bullied and murdered child passes away
by sillygirlforgotpassword inobituary: suman virk, the mother who forgave her daughter's killer http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44562746.
i came across this interesting, sad article detailing a case of a runaway child who was murdered in canada.
apparently she had been raised as a jw.
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waton
Was there not a jw convention going on in that town at the time?
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Immigration: The Truth about the LIe - CRIME
by Wonderment inimmigration: the truth about the lie: crimecrime: do immigrants increase rates of violence?
there has been a lot of talk about how immigrants pose a threat to the safety of this country by increasing crime rates.
is there any truth to this, or is it "fake news.
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waton
"Blood and soil" rears its ugly head again" najw.
soil became soaked with blood, when blood was pushed too far. When push comes to shove, shoving is better than soaking.
good fences make good neighbours.
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Immigration: The Truth about the LIe - CRIME
by Wonderment inimmigration: the truth about the lie: crimecrime: do immigrants increase rates of violence?
there has been a lot of talk about how immigrants pose a threat to the safety of this country by increasing crime rates.
is there any truth to this, or is it "fake news.
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waton
Interesting point, statistics . Being illegal, would be a big incentive to avoid having a 'second strike and you are out' situation exposing you to ICE.
Sadly there is home grown crime, but why increase the total crimes committed by allowing illegals to add to that?
Local US police do not want to enforce federal immigration laws, because it would hamper their work in combatting crimes committed within the illegal migrant populations, much of which goes unreported anyway.
In Germany pitched battles with death and injuries are fought in the streets by migrant clans on a daily basis; there does not a week goes by that young females are not raped, murdered by "New Germans" .--- very sad.
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"This Good news Of The Kingdom Will Be Preached In All The Inhabited Earth" ........
by smiddy3 in..".for a witness to all the nations and then the end will come" .matt.24:14.. the religion of jehovah`s witnesses kid themselves into thinking they are filling or have fulfilled this prophecy/scripture .. given that you take the jehovah`s witnesses and the international bible students association as one and the same religion , then they have been preaching their message primarily within lands that are predominantly christian based.....and certainly do not cover "all the inhabited earth " as their are many populous non christian nations nations that do not allow, even forbid any proselytizing in their lands.
i would estimate about one third of the current world population.. but that is not all .. given that you take the jehovah`s witnesses and the international bible students association as one and the same religion ,then they have about 140 years of preaching their beliefs to the public specifically to preach "this good news of the kingdom " as they claim to do in obedience to j.c.commands at matt.24:14.. take a survey no matter where you live on this planet earth of the people in your locality and if you asked them "what was the message jehovah`s witnesses left you and no one would be able to say "they told me about and explained to me the good news of the kingdom" and what it would mean to me.. no one would be able to say that .after 140 years of preaching and witnessing by what is now 8 million plus jehovah`s witnesses .. what a waste of time and energy and lives .. after 140 years of preaching what do the public know about jehovah`s witnesses ?.
they don`t take blood transfusions .
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waton
ask any witness and they might be flabbergasted too, what the good news of the kingdom is.
a) the kingdom of gods love by the son, Colossians chapter 1, ?
b) the kingdom that invisibly started in 1914 to let loose the overlapping generation,? or
c) the millennium, still praying for it to come.?
Not to speak of the eternal king.
Very devoted people in wt as there in other religions, sad. because doctrinal clarity, consistence is hard to come by in religions,-- if based on a children's book with talking snakes, donkeys, other fancy stuff.
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Image: Great Tribulation
by OrphanCrow inthe org's fear theme has really been emphasized recently- the bunker video and now the convention video with jws being pursued by guys with assault rifles.
this image comes from the watchtower july 2017 questions from readers: would it be fitting for a christian to keep a firearm, such as a handgun or a rifle, for protection against other humans?.
the caption for the image is this: during the great tribulation, christians will rely on jehovah and not try to defend themselves.
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waton
what ever happened to " stand back and enjoy your salvation ", Noah peacefully bobbing above Everest? The anointed "generation" having fled Jerusalem, out of harms way?
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RC Lowell Mass (USA)
by loneranger inconvention in lowell mass june 15-17 2018...about 4500 in attendance...11 baptized (0.24%)...believe about 6 of those were kids of current jw's..
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waton
just to make the math easier, at a recent assembly in the Pacific North West, there was a figure of ~1% baptized, less than 5% of that new recruits. Not a valid baptism, not by people that knew what they were doing. No doves, perhaps bird brains though.
Father forgive them, they do not know what they are doing.
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Review: 2018 "Be Courageous!" convention
by neat blue dog infriday and saturday were for the most part pretty light, not too culty or doctinal, could easily suck in the unsuspecting.
there were a couple of hypocritical lines that i took note of however.
at one point the speaker said, "if your boss fires everyone who disagrees with him but promotes everyone who agrees with him, you might be tempted to agree with him just to keep your job.
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waton
Only saw the special effects of the Jonah movie, the screensaver, surfing viking ship, so:
Have jws realized, that the production's slickness hides the fact that they, like Jonah , are being set up to be false prophets? duped , fooled into proclaiming a message that was never meant to be taken seriously?