faithnomore, You may have a point, because if recall right, the lawyer said: JWs, do not shun, he was not saying wt policy allows shunning.
Posts by waton
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28JW Lawyers and Heavyweights lying in court.
by freddo inin a recent canadian case i've seen (on line video in threads on here) the wt lawyer says that disfellowshipping isn't actual shunning but only a cutting off of spiritual association.
but what case is it and is there a transcript available on line?.
any other "good" examples from the point of view that it proves wt speak out of both sides of their mouths?.
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You may PRETEND to care - in reality you are SELFISH!
by wannabefree inthat;s what my wife (and all jw's) gets to hear about us at the kingdom hall today, (hmmmm, i wonder if she'll raise her hand to answer this one) ... .
watchtower study ... today, apostates and others who create divisions in the congregation use “smooth talk and flattering speech.” (romans 16:17, 18) they may pretend to care about others, but in reality, they are selfish.. (the watchtower - study edition (simplified version) 10/17 page 4 paragraph 7).
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waton
selfish? # 10, apostates are selfish because they did not wait, like the apostles, plugging ahead without understanding.
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Today's Watchtower did have some nice bits in it but hang on...
by Isambard Crater in...in the section where it said unselfishly loving people don't draw attention to themselves but do things anonymously, the thought came to me about why at the conventions do they announce "and now a talk from brother x who has served as an elder and pioneer for twenty years"?
some say it's encouraging but i have never felt that way..
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waton
# 16 On the seat saving stampede, at 8am, they gingerly sidestepped the big issue of the gold rush mentality of the new World crowd, and celebrated the few unselfish attendants that are content with just one isle seat and don't pave the front with old wts&As for the whole congregation.
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You may PRETEND to care - in reality you are SELFISH!
by wannabefree inthat;s what my wife (and all jw's) gets to hear about us at the kingdom hall today, (hmmmm, i wonder if she'll raise her hand to answer this one) ... .
watchtower study ... today, apostates and others who create divisions in the congregation use “smooth talk and flattering speech.” (romans 16:17, 18) they may pretend to care about others, but in reality, they are selfish.. (the watchtower - study edition (simplified version) 10/17 page 4 paragraph 7).
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waton
punkofnice: I'm surprised they didn't ask for money in the middle of it.
they did, subtly. Paragraph 9. Ananias & Sapphira: dont just give a little, but give all, and shut up about it. You dedicated all ( the old song: "--take my silver and my gold--" ) you are a hypocrite if you do not fulfill that melodic vow. wow!
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JW Lawyers and Heavyweights lying in court.
by freddo inin a recent canadian case i've seen (on line video in threads on here) the wt lawyer says that disfellowshipping isn't actual shunning but only a cutting off of spiritual association.
but what case is it and is there a transcript available on line?.
any other "good" examples from the point of view that it proves wt speak out of both sides of their mouths?.
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waton
I can see where his description of post-disfellowshippings/DAs situations could apply in a close knit family, with a minor living at home, but not to all JWs, as he clearly spoke,
Example: there was a young teenage baptism experience here, where the kid was moved to dedication by the closeness of the overlapping generation's end., but if he would now be agitating in the congregation, when he found out, that wt really opened a way to 2075 and beyond, that would be disrupting the dozing congregation, The Elders would really shut the spiritual family conversation down, for fear the truth would spread.
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JW Lawyers and Heavyweights lying in court.
by freddo inin a recent canadian case i've seen (on line video in threads on here) the wt lawyer says that disfellowshipping isn't actual shunning but only a cutting off of spiritual association.
but what case is it and is there a transcript available on line?.
any other "good" examples from the point of view that it proves wt speak out of both sides of their mouths?.
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waton
Yeah, your opponent's lawyers are always liars Fisherman,
you are grasping at straws if you think that this blatant misstatement was wrongly interpreted here because of preconceptions. That was a straight faced blatant lie., when applied to the client / customer relationship that is the subject of the suit.
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JW Lawyers and Heavyweights lying in court.
by freddo inin a recent canadian case i've seen (on line video in threads on here) the wt lawyer says that disfellowshipping isn't actual shunning but only a cutting off of spiritual association.
but what case is it and is there a transcript available on line?.
any other "good" examples from the point of view that it proves wt speak out of both sides of their mouths?.
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waton
how would, or could proven lying affect the outcome of the (unrelated) judgement?"Putin" was taking note when Mr "Truth'ful misspoke.
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If we just suddenly start talking to DFed people again and use the Canada court video as our argument, what would happen?
by Isambard Crater inthe jw lawyer clearly stated that disfellowshipping only applies to spiritual association, but everyday family contact is ok..
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waton
That is a despicable lie. In one of the last midweek meetings, a video was shown, where a mother is commended for not answering a disfellowshipped daughter's dialing her mother. According to this lawyer, the mother should have answered, because how did she know that her daughter did not have bible question? or perhaps wanted to tell her mother that her grandchild had died?
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Watchtower Philosophy Debates
by Wild_Thing ini was wondering how many of you still enjoy (or maybe you just feel the need) to discuss and debate jw doctrine and scripture.
i find myself scrolling right past those topics i see online.
i could care less.
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waton
woj:-- guess what, just browsed through tomorrow's wt, October 2017 and it is all about the meaning of 2 mountains, 4 horses, and ladies with stork wings* (I kid you not) from Zechariah's prophecies. Meaning assigned to even to the lead in the lid.
* wt upsets ancient myths. I knew storks brought babies, but ladies with stork feature? new to me!
ps: two such delivery stork-like ladies, carrying not a baby, but full grown women, in a partial lead container to Babylon. (almost as bad as a lead Zeppelin)
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Assembly day Cleveland Ohio (Willoughby ass. Hall) results
by nowwhat? in1300 attendance 11 teenagers baptised (.85 growth) $12,000 expenses.
biggest facepalm moment- teenage pioneer says she pioneers because "the overlapping generation is getting up there in years ,so time is short" as the saying goes "those that don't know history are doomed to repeat it".
very mind numbing day nothing you haven't heard a hundred times before..
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waton
Very odd for a person that has not seen 1975 to be concerned about the overlapping generation.
A typical overlapping generation member as exemplified by Frederick Franz & successor is not "--getting up there in years.--", and would be only ~ 46 years old today. That teenage pioneer is well placed to see the 2075 centennial happening, when the date for Franz's newer candidate comes to pack in.