just because some questions can be formulated and stacked in sequence does not bestow merit to most of them.
Posts by waton
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Panpsychism - a philosophy with a future
by slimboyfat inat one time scientists believed that living things and non-living things were made of different material, accounting for the unique properties of living things.
this idea is called vitalism and is no longer popular.
what does remain popular (in fact is still the dominant view) is a similar idea that things that experience the world (humans, frogs, mice) are different from things that don't experience the world (potatoes, rocks, snowflakes).
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question of the day if Jesus on earth today and assuming he was a jw
by poopie inwould he be disfelowshipped for talking to df persons?.
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waton
He spoke to a woman at a well in a secluded area alone with no chaperone,
a worldly lady, and then, abandoning his special pioneer partners, moved in with her (in-to her city) for 1 1/2 days, possibly 2 nights.
and he was also a trained carpenter...Zep:
now, the lowest paid of all the trades. moronic for a perfect human. strange, he never used one of the many situations in that skill in his teaching. Woodworking, powered only by arm & hand, it is agony not only long ago.
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Bible is good if we look for implied truth
by venus inthumbs-up gesture doesn’t covey much if we see only four fingers closed and thumb standing upward.
but if we look for the implied meaning, then it is a positive, informal signal indicating a job well done, and saying ‘keep it up.’.
similarly, biblical accounts don’t convey much if we see them as mere accounts.
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waton
lessons from Red Riding Hood : do not talk to the animals, same for the snake story.
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question of the day if Jesus on earth today and assuming he was a jw
by poopie inwould he be disfelowshipped for talking to df persons?.
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waton
He would not be considered an example for the young brothers, hounded to be immersed at 9, because HE entered the service, delayed his dedication and baptism to his 30's year, although being able to call on all resources in the Universe, he gave only 10% of his life time.
Wow! must have been good to be perfect and free! 90% of your time!
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Panpsychism - a philosophy with a future
by slimboyfat inat one time scientists believed that living things and non-living things were made of different material, accounting for the unique properties of living things.
this idea is called vitalism and is no longer popular.
what does remain popular (in fact is still the dominant view) is a similar idea that things that experience the world (humans, frogs, mice) are different from things that don't experience the world (potatoes, rocks, snowflakes).
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waton
It would be very tempting to give matter the status of divinity, if one considers any created substance as the now un-dead trailings of a superior being.
two magnets display an uncanny ability to attract or repell, even through some substances. They seem to be "aware" of each other. This goes down to the smallest fundamental particles. so,
are inert, "noble" substances like Helium, Gold less conscious because they react with difficulty, but explosives more alert?
Ascribing a quasi divinity to all matter might prompt us to deal with respect, gratitude even, with all we manipulate, -good-, but ascribing conscious too it all, would that not be the ultimate idolatry, misplaced reaction?
"ascribing", because there is silch scientific experimental evident for it, to my knowledge.
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November broadcast
by inbetween09 inanybody seen november 2017 broadcast ?
i do not mean the hypocritical talks about accuracy, but the rather short talk at the end.
the brother (sorry, forgot the name) addressed the issue of how apostates wrongly inform the media about the 2 witness rule.
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waton
It opens for the question too, why they do not allow an adversarial second witness to be present in pre-jc and jc meetings, and as a substitute insist in "no recordings" ?
If child rapists hide behind the one witness barrier, what grievous stuff has wt to hide?
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Deceptive comments or lies that you have heard from platform or brothers & sisters?
by Farmer Jim1 inok, so what are the most deceptive comments that you have heard from your experience in congregations?.
my top three are;.
1) service overseer during the ’ how did we do?’ annual talk, twisted the figures to such an extent that it looked like the congregations ministry was in tip-top shape.
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Instructor in elder class: "Now, I am not a mechanic, but finding the motor in the trunk really surprised me therefore:--
Just to clarify, This was a deceptive attempt to raise himself above the redneck- car loving males of the day, referring to the rear engined, Beetles, Corvairs, Porsches, Ralph Nader (unsafe at any speed) bru ha ha of the day. This set the tone for the course, to talk down to the dejected crowd be had put in it's place by these comments.
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question of the day if Jesus on earth today and assuming he was a jw
by poopie inwould he be disfelowshipped for talking to df persons?.
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waton
he would be disfellowshipped for speaking against God's appointed channel. within 3 1/2 years. Hopefully he would go against WT policy and volunteer, cooperate with "the world" to undergo tests to establish what a perfect human would be like, genetically, etc.
Resist photo ops with minors, and refrain from comment, like " let the children come--"
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Panpsychism - a philosophy with a future
by slimboyfat inat one time scientists believed that living things and non-living things were made of different material, accounting for the unique properties of living things.
this idea is called vitalism and is no longer popular.
what does remain popular (in fact is still the dominant view) is a similar idea that things that experience the world (humans, frogs, mice) are different from things that don't experience the world (potatoes, rocks, snowflakes).
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waton
SBF: it is extraordinary that you define lifeless matter as one that had previously been in an life-carrying arrangement. Matter does not have to die to be lifeless (dead).
The propensity of electrons to combine, rearrange with others (like in Oxygen) can not be construed to mean they have consciousness, a desire to react.
I am a rock hound by the way, Amber, and naturally polished beach pebbles my favourites ( like Newton).
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Does the Bible Teach...?
by Vanderhoven7 inquestions to ask witnesses.
1. does the bible teach when the great crowd of revelation 7 started forming?.
the watchtower had expressed the hope that a convention scheduled for may 30 to june 3, 1935, in washington, d.c., u.s.a., would be “a real comfort and benefit” to those pictured by jehonadab.
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Vanderhoven : ".. see the "polus/much tribulation" of Revelation as referring to what Christians experience all over the world as a result of their faith in Christ. What Jesus said would happen to true Christians--"
I heard that explanation ~ 30 years ago from an "apostate" and pass judgement on that. I was here evaluating the WT version on it's de-merits, and even a comparing of these elements do not end up. That is why the deeper and longer wt tries to make the facts match their fiction, the deeper they get balled up.
Now stretching the coming of the GT to 2075, and putting it outside the life span of the last generation.