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  Quebec's Burning Hate - For Jehovah's Witness Abuse

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  it has been quite the week for watch tower in quebec.. 1. les sales du royaume by french cbc-tv https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbvoc-nhisg ( english - the kingdom's dirty secrets - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ajphgmt9ji ) wins french-canada's version of an emmy on the same day that part 2.

  2. part 2 (le silence des anciens - the silence of the elders) airs http://ici.radio-canada.ca/tele/enquete/site/segments/reportage/38171/temoins-jehovah-agression-victime-pasquale-turbide.

  .3. the quebec provincial police are investigating for further abuse cases .. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-jehovahs-witnesses-allegations-child-abuse-1.4291646 implicating canada branch committee member john macewan.

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  on item 4, a lengthy read: The 3 judges rejected the wt appeal, which maintained that the judge in the previous decision had acted with personal prejudice in his ruling against JW practises foisted by the divorced a jw mother on her daughters.

  The non-jw father , a Pharmacist, had asked that first court to curtail his former wife's wt activities, particularly the h2h time, and the single judge had agreed, but the 3 appeal court judges disagreed with wt. The prejudice against wt is not personal, it is universal.
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  What would Watchtower be like now with out the 1975 fiasco.

  by joe134cd in

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  2. scandals

  no doubt this has been discussed before, but if the 1975 event had never happened where would watchtower be now.

  comments please..

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  it would have 10s of thousand less members, because there was a huge boost through sincere jws taken wt pronouncements seriously. It also steeled the deceived ones against further wt mayhem like the overlapping.

  wt will never shake the stigma of being false speculating prophets, putting up trial balloons, being loons.
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  Quebec's Burning Hate - For Jehovah's Witness Abuse

  by berrygerry in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  it has been quite the week for watch tower in quebec.. 1. les sales du royaume by french cbc-tv https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbvoc-nhisg ( english - the kingdom's dirty secrets - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ajphgmt9ji ) wins french-canada's version of an emmy on the same day that part 2.

  2. part 2 (le silence des anciens - the silence of the elders) airs http://ici.radio-canada.ca/tele/enquete/site/segments/reportage/38171/temoins-jehovah-agression-victime-pasquale-turbide.

  .3. the quebec provincial police are investigating for further abuse cases .. http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/quebec-jehovahs-witnesses-allegations-child-abuse-1.4291646 implicating canada branch committee member john macewan.

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  waton

  implicating Canada Branch Committee member John MacEwan

  To be fair. John MacEwan is not implicated in any sexual wrongdoing, but only as an elder in that place at the time. Perhaps not even involved in this particular case. the way I read it anyway.
  
  
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  Canada: class action lawsuit filed against the Watchtower about the pedophilia issue

  by yalbmert99 in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  canada, province of quebec : class action lawsuit filed against the watchtower about the pedophilia issue.

  it is now official.

  see the articles in french of today:.

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  waton

  The "enquete" story invites witnesses of such events, and other victims to come forward to links of the cbc/ radio canada program, so, more juicy stuff might surface.

  Terrebonne is mentioned, it means "good earth" but not so good things are un-earthed there.
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  Next week's "Bible" Study at the K.H.

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  one or two notable points from chapter 18 of "god's kingdom rules.".

  “it will never beg nor petition men for support”.

  7 brother russell and his associates refused to imitate the money-raising schemes so common in the churches of christendom.

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  when we vote for donation funds to go to the CO, the insurances, the construction projects, the disaster reliefs, and so on.

  SL: These were the occasions when I took the "no voting" doctrine of the wt very serious sement. ha ha.

  As donations decline, more such votes on contribution levels will increase, perhaps even pleas to contribute locally and not use the wt online system. watch being "marked" for negative reaction.
  
  
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  "The purpose of reporting field service time is for encouragement"

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was told this when i was an aspiring jw, aka unbaptized publisher.

  the above explanation didn't make sense to me then and it never did make sense throughout my jw career.

  over time, it appeared to me the real purpose of field service time reporting was to gauge one's spirituality and for the ceo *cough* co to make sure the elders were on top of things during his visit..

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  JW`s are not content with just Jesus shed blood they offer up man Woman and Child to shed their blood to Christ Jesus /Jehovah,,,

  S3: correction, only .016 % of jws are content with the [symbolic] blood of JC, by accepting it as partakers. The vast majority reject even that symbol, the wine. hopefully one day soon, they will reject it all.
  
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  "The purpose of reporting field service time is for encouragement"

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was told this when i was an aspiring jw, aka unbaptized publisher.

  the above explanation didn't make sense to me then and it never did make sense throughout my jw career.

  over time, it appeared to me the real purpose of field service time reporting was to gauge one's spirituality and for the ceo *cough* co to make sure the elders were on top of things during his visit..

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  waton

  It is the only "charitable" activity that wt can claim, provided free by, and tabulated from the members, totally unrelated to the incoming cash flow. reported monthly to fool the governments tax men.
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  Either God’s non-existence or His majesty

  by venus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in natural calamities, everyone (despite one’s faith) is affected.

  when one denies god’s existence, he experiences no punishment from him.

  when one worships him, he receives no special favor from him.

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  waton

  a God that fits the image of what we expect of him?

  Ds: in my case, not so much what we expect of him, but in accord with the record in nature, that the past allows us to draw on, although because of last month's pre- eclipse experience, I would go one step beyond that.
  
  
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  Either God’s non-existence or His majesty

  by venus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in natural calamities, everyone (despite one’s faith) is affected.

  when one denies god’s existence, he experiences no punishment from him.

  when one worships him, he receives no special favor from him.

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  waton

  while the above arguments are applicable to the concepts of men - created mental concepts of deities, the elephant staring us in the face is Creation, the incomprehensible vastness and energy locked up in it. that is where the "majesty" is lurking.

  Control weather patterns? man is doing it on a small scale without violating the laws of nature, just nature perhaps.

  The writers of ancient Holy books (biblia) tailored their picture of gods to the idea of the universe they had. We ought to develop / accept the existence of a creator that accommodate what has emerged as the true scope of creation. unless the cosmos made itself.
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  J.W. dogma refuted by their own RNWT Bible

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  perhaps potential j.w.

  recruits can use this example on their study conductors - and then witness the cognitive dissonance at first hand.. w98 2/1 p. 11 par.

  13 – “when jehovah made his covenant, it was only with israel; those of the “vast mixed company,” although present, were not named as participants.”.

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  waton

  The issue is simpler. All of Israel was supposed to be in the law covenant. all, 12 tribes +

  Now in wt dog-ma, the 12 tribes are not in the covenant, (they are the Earthly Class), and only the Priest/Kings are in the covenant.

  so: how can a confusion be simpler? only in wt land.