There was no assuring of salvation, ensuring of protection in that meeting, the video should not have been watched by children, wt is abusive, empty, floundering in their doctrinal mire, Gog? google it.
Posts by waton
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27Last nights CLAM meeting
by dbq407 inso hadn't been to a clam meeting in quite a few months, but went last night.
so we learned that gog of magog is not satan as previously believed.
they used a few scriptures that made it clear that it couldn't be satan and that it would be a coalition of nations.
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judgement and resurrection
by inbetween09 inanother inconsistency in wt theology:.
jw believe, when armegeddon comes, only jw will survive.
good news was preached in most areas and people could decide for or against god.
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waton
they might be resurrected, but you better take this literature, become a jw or you will never see them again.
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What is the watchtower going to do when
by pepperheart inwhat is the watchtower going to do when the money runs out ??
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waton
imagine if your business has not to deliver a product in return?
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Concept faithful discreet slave
by inbetween09 inaccording to the "new light" the faithful slave class appeared after jesus came 1914 (rather 1918 he inspected the temple) and was bestowed with assigement to provide spiritual food.. there are a number of problems with this new concept:.
how did russel and co found out about certain unique teachings diffferent from mainstream christendom?.
option 1) apparently by himself, as there was no fds at his time.
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waton
show them how even the logic of the resulting conclusions fall apart upon scrutiny.,
inbetween09. logic: if wt places the F&DS of 1919 in the last generation prophecy of Math 24: 34, they have agreed that Math 25 is also included in "all these things". But that chapter finishes with the sheep going off into everlasting life. So, the generation that does not pass away are the Other Sheep, not the anointed at all, for they will already have passed away prior to all this finality / infinity. so;
the concept of the wt's anointed faithful discreet slave generation is ill conceived, a con. . not discreet, but discredited. the butt of the joke.
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What would happen if everyone who ever lived came back? - Video on Youtube
by ILoveTTATT2 invery interesting video showing what would happen if everyone who ever died came back...tldr: 90% would die (again) within two months because of famine.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-s34gz3xwgtherefore: "paradise" is just impossible..
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waton
If the globular Earth would be reconfigured after the 1000 years to have 4 corners, it would actually be a three sided pyramid. a very appropriate symbol of the scheme that the bible based belief is.
sorry for the slightly off topic "fun of the bible" banter.
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Concept faithful discreet slave
by inbetween09 inaccording to the "new light" the faithful slave class appeared after jesus came 1914 (rather 1918 he inspected the temple) and was bestowed with assigement to provide spiritual food.. there are a number of problems with this new concept:.
how did russel and co found out about certain unique teachings diffferent from mainstream christendom?.
option 1) apparently by himself, as there was no fds at his time.
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waton
show them how even the logic of the resulting conclusions fall apart upon scrutiny.,
ib09: right! and placing the Faithful & Discreet Slave only into the last generation, disenfranchises the apostles, all martyrs, and empowers the Brooklyn's 7. but destroys their legitimacy if you look at those conclusions.
New Light has been minor adjustments in doctrine. Even the Overlapping Generation still has the final point that "this generation will by no means pass away." They just kicked the can down the road...again.
t_b_k: great!: Churches have been kicking the can since the first century, now wt wants to stop that. because the wt's anointed generation has to pass away, to be gathered to heaven.way before the end. and Jesus said that it will not pass away.ever. so:
The anointed wt generation is not what can be construed from Jesus' words.
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God doesn’t foresee/foretell future
by venus inif god foresee/foretell future, he could definitely have foreseen the communication revolution we experience today and sent jesus in the first half of 21st century [instead of first century] where the whole world could watch him performing miracles live as we watched will tsai, a young japanes visualist who brings dead fish back to life in america's got talent 2017—especially because god’s will is that “everyone is to be saved” (1 timothy 2:4)-- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9af4wvd6cz0.
if god does foresee future, it would mean that incident are foreordained in which case it is not foreseeing.
but truth is that he has not fixed events.
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waton
He does what ever the GB says he does
ttdtt: even Jesus fantasized about that: "-- whatever you bind on earth, is bound in heaven "
the GB published many bound books, volumes, nothing of that wash ever triggered the anticipated "god' response.
the GB are jw's god, (substitute the word in any publication) they reach no higher than that. Brooklyn, Warwick are near sea level,
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The Internet is worse for the Watchtower than 1975 was: here's proof.
by ILoveTTATT2 ini am translating jwfacts to spanish.
i am doing the "statistics" section.here are two graphs that show that the statistics have never been worse for the watchtower:quantity of hours required for 1 baptism: note how low it went in 1974-1975, and note that 2016 is much higher than the slump of 1978... about double, to be exact.
2016 was a historical record in this statistic (higher is worse for watchtower).. this stat is the baptisms as a percentage of the publisher average.
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God doesn’t foresee/foretell future
by venus inif god foresee/foretell future, he could definitely have foreseen the communication revolution we experience today and sent jesus in the first half of 21st century [instead of first century] where the whole world could watch him performing miracles live as we watched will tsai, a young japanes visualist who brings dead fish back to life in america's got talent 2017—especially because god’s will is that “everyone is to be saved” (1 timothy 2:4)-- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9af4wvd6cz0.
if god does foresee future, it would mean that incident are foreordained in which case it is not foreseeing.
but truth is that he has not fixed events.
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waton
Even in Jesus' day, there existed near-instant recording, manual writing of tax receipts for example, but while Jesus, the most knowledgeable man who ever lived, did not sink so low as to write himself, his biographers finally got around to penning it decades later. so
g.o.d. has a safety time delay of decades build into his communication system, it is the past that is his pastime, not the future.
talking of the future, if the creator is eternal, he has been already there, eternally, watching us, from a distance, what will evolve, as we travel through time.
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Study article for this week, more self delusion
by stillin in"set your heart on spiritual treasures.
" i have been thinking about this during the past week.
i always knew that there were no treasures on earth.
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with par. 16, wt admitted that the "pearl of great value" illustrated on page 9, is in fact a empty bauble, a bubble ready to burst. because it represents
The wt kingdom of 1914, with millions then living that would never die, 1925, 1975, 2075, were all sold as shiny new gems in their time, , but now are old tarnished, discarded truth in the "treasure chest" of jws.'
These burst bubbles of hope were once payable with your life. because you would have been disfellowshipped for opposing, not treasuring them.
No wonder the guy on page 9 is so wild eyed, it is crazy, too good to be true.