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  Who holds the Burden Of Proof?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  when we as former witnesses wake up and choose to leave the society, it is mainly because we value truth and honesty.. the society tries to make out that we are in the wrong.

  that we have "left the truth".. but, who really holds the burden of proof?

  do we (who leave) need to prove that the society is not the "truth", or does the society need to prove that it is the "truth".. thoughts?.

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  waton

  burden of proof is with the person making the statement, if asked. wt's jws are not asking. They do not want to hear it. None are so deaf than those that do not want to hear.
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  White clean shaven man runs over muslims

  by silentbuddha in

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  2. current

  so in england they report a "white clean-shaven man" mowed down worshippers at a mosque.

  why do they never make such detailed descriptions when muslims do the same?.

  i hope this event isn't a bad turning point.

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  choice of weapons in this m0dern day duell,: white dylivert vans.
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  London fire..

  by zeb in

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  i bleed for the poor souls caught in that.

  no sprinkler system in that domestic building..!.

  tragically the govts various of london learned nothing during the world war..

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  waton

  dying in flames is a very painful death, hopefully many that died were spared that needless suffering because passing out from smoke poisoning, or asphyxiation, falling asleep for lack of oxygen.

  always hoping for the best, even for the ~60, nearly same number, that died more recently that way in Portugal .
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  If you were a J.W. before July 2013..................

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ....................then you couldn't have been "in the truth" nor was "the truth in you" until july 2013, because that month's watchtower was dedicated to reversing the following 8 "truths" and replacing them with opposing "truths".

  you'd been believing and teaching falsehoods.. these are for any new members and those j.w.

  's who visit here who have not seen this list before.

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  waton

  8. Jesus appointed the FDS over all his belongings in 1919. (page 24, par 15,16) (changed until after the G.T.so

  is wt saying that the "anointed GB" will retain the function of feeding in heaven? after they go to heaven before the GT? during their fighting as immortals at Armageddon?

  I remember wt illustrations where they have the partakers strolling through the "new earth", directing the paradisefication proceedings! ha ha.

  Searcher I thought you meant all reversals that happened before 2013. The anointed after Armageddon vascilation has happened several times.
  
  
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  Who is benefiting from Watchtower Corporation financially

  by John Davis in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  who do you believe is financially benefiting from watchtower business dealings.

  i know about the gold apple watch, but that is only a small percentage of the billions that they have.

  so who do you think is keeping all of this money.

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  The wealth is probably seeping out at the periphery, real wealth observable there. Do not expect intelligence that accesses that to leave you with insights.
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  What made you stay "in" even when you knew it wasn't the "truth"?

  by mentalclarity in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  so i've been thinking a lot about why i stayed a jw for so long even though i had always had doubts about the doctrines.

  i was born into the religion, left and came back as an adult for another decade.

  some of the things that come to mind (besides the threat of shunning-and this isn't to minimize that very real threat) was:.

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  waton

  wanting to be there when the fan is being hit with the rhime.
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  Son finds JW parents stabbed to death inside their home

  by darkspilver in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  tragic news.

  - limited information so far.. son finds parents stabbed to death inside north austin home.. abc7 chicago.

  sunday 18 june 2017.. a son discovered his two parents stabbed to death inside a home on chicago's north austin neighborhood, police said.. he found his 67-year-old father and 69-year-old mother fatally stabbed in the 1400-block of north leclaire avenue and contacted police at about 1 a.m., police said.

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  This does not look like the south side where life is so perilous.
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  Watchtower Study June 18 from April 2017 issue

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-april-2017/judge-of-all-earth-always-does-what-is-right/.

  the judge of all the earth always does what is right.

  intended as a confidence builder in the organization ..see what you think.. theme is from deuteronomy but it is really highlighting that passage in genesis where abraham had a dialogue with god, (gen.18) would god destroy sodom if 50 righteous men would perish?

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  I hope justice will be done to all the wrongdoers in the wt leadership. for the abuses they dished out.

  justice like the 10 vengeful brothers of Joseph received when they had to come crawling back to him begging to be able to buy for food.

  many here fall into that Joseph category . would love to see the gory scene when wt will eat crow.
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  Watchtower Study June 18 from April 2017 issue

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-april-2017/judge-of-all-earth-always-does-what-is-right/.

  the judge of all the earth always does what is right.

  intended as a confidence builder in the organization ..see what you think.. theme is from deuteronomy but it is really highlighting that passage in genesis where abraham had a dialogue with god, (gen.18) would god destroy sodom if 50 righteous men would perish?

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  waton

  Nowhere is mentioned that those in higher position will have "a more severe judgement", or that they are in effect "judging themselves", and that Jehovah said : "vengeance is mine"

  The Wt org equates itself with "jehovah" so, wait on it. of course we will be waiting for a long time, for the wolves among the sheep act with impunity for they expect their god to be as absent as he was in 1914, 1925, 19175.

  added: In the story of Joseph they fail to mention that it was because of his whistleblowing, exposing the wrongdoing of his brothers that he was nearly killed and expelled by them. sounds familiar?
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  If you were a J.W. before July 2013..................

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  ....................then you couldn't have been "in the truth" nor was "the truth in you" until july 2013, because that month's watchtower was dedicated to reversing the following 8 "truths" and replacing them with opposing "truths".

  you'd been believing and teaching falsehoods.. these are for any new members and those j.w.

  's who visit here who have not seen this list before.

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  waton

  1) in my early days, prediction was that the Gt started in 1914, was interrupted (GT interruptus) and would resume at Armageddon***, now overlappingly postponed possibly to 2075. ***

  to allow the GC of OS to come "out" of, and not "survive"the GT as they teach wrongly now.

  Why did wt not predict the overlap then? could have saved us so much grief. They can not even predict their own doings never mind "god's"