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  June 2017 Watchtower - Jehovah's Sovereignty is at stake if you disagree with us

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  four years ago the watchtower made the following demand.

  all of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not.

  they are not content with obedience and in the upcoming june watchtower they have this to say -15. how does respect for theocratic headship reveal our love for jehovah’s way of ruling?15 what is our response to divinely authorized headship?

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  waton

  it was supposed to be "what you have bound on Earth, will be bound in Heaven": so, if wt/ F&DS/GB proclaims as the end of the word, start of paradise, 1914, 1925, 1975, ~2075, it was supposed to happen, but what happened. ???

  The Creator is not going to have his reputation, sovereignty vindicated by wt works, obviously. so supporting them is not a god given duty, he did not support them either.

  The order: is Creator, husband, good wife, children. 1: Cor 11:3:--- no WT GB, no elders to be found there. to repeat:

  If God did not support the WT, why would you?
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  paradise could last twice as long elsewhere

  by waton in

  1. social
  2. current

  6 planets around the dim, slow burning star trappist-1, have the temperature to permit [almost better, longer] "everlasting life" in paradise.

  this distant "sun" will give light for another ~ 10 billion years, unlike our sun, which is already half done., with only ~ 4 to go.

  everlasting, overlapping life on our planet: naturally impossible.

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  waton

  I am more interested in the orbit spacings of these close planets, it is showing a regular pattern, like our planets, but not doubling, and not light minutes and light hours, but 4- 8 light seconds apart.
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  paradise could last twice as long elsewhere

  by waton in

  1. social
  2. current

  6 planets around the dim, slow burning star trappist-1, have the temperature to permit [almost better, longer] "everlasting life" in paradise.

  this distant "sun" will give light for another ~ 10 billion years, unlike our sun, which is already half done., with only ~ 4 to go.

  everlasting, overlapping life on our planet: naturally impossible.

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  waton

  we might be able to travel to other planets Fairlane,

  or be resurrected there.

  cofty, with 6 of Trappist-1's planets amenable to life, but separated by 100 of 1000s in km of hostile space, evolution would have a hay day, the galapagos of the milky way.
  

  There will be a new heaven and earth. Gorby, these planets will be still new, when the earth is gone.

  Do the JWs wonder if that system had an earth-like planet with an Adam and Eve, a Satan, a Jesus, the issue of universal sovereignty. Do they think there must only be life here? Yanthippe, No they don't, we have that unique privilege in the whole universe, talking snake and all.
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  paradise could last twice as long elsewhere

  by waton in

  1. social
  2. current

  6 planets around the dim, slow burning star trappist-1, have the temperature to permit [almost better, longer] "everlasting life" in paradise.

  this distant "sun" will give light for another ~ 10 billion years, unlike our sun, which is already half done., with only ~ 4 to go.

  everlasting, overlapping life on our planet: naturally impossible.

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  waton

  6 planets around the dim, slow burning star TRAPPIST-1, have the temperature to permit [almost better, longer] "everlasting life" in paradise. This distant "sun" will give light for another ~ 10 billion years, unlike our sun, which is already half done., with only ~ 4 to go.

  everlasting, overlapping life on our planet: naturally impossible. ---

  on planets c-g not proven, but likely to last twice as long so: happy overlapping.
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  Gods Kingdom rules book, what did they leave out?

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  haven't read this book but i guess it the watered down version of thier history.

  what did the leave out and lie about in this publication?

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  waton

  The reason why the reigning king selected WT as the faithful slave in 1919, the brilliant " Millions now living will never die" booklet and campaign, page 426 in "proclaimers book" absent in KR.

  Michelin gives 5 star ratings,for quality of food served, look at the wt quality of spiritual food at the crucial time of testing. Millions will never die (but only as a group). bon appetit.
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  Was There ANYTHING Positive That You Experienced Because of Being a JW?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  was there anything positive about your jehovah's witness experience?.

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  waton

  Love bombing me, giving me recognition, and an outlet for natural communication skills. making me on object, undeservedly, of the desires of truly gorgeous ladies, who, without that religious aura , would not have given me a second look, in other words, my happy family lives.
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  It just seems that there isn't enough in it to pin it to them

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i was just thinking this morning about the court cases wt is facing and although i do think there are enough of them is there just enough in them to pin it to wt.

  i sort of get the feeling a lot of these cases are revolving around the definition of terms and also an attitude of could-a, should-a, would-a.

  even with the latest example it raised more questions than solutions and i'm guessing that's why it was settled out of court.

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  waton

  There's stuff they can do about it.

  As you might know from my posts I am no fan of wt leading. but we hear so much of the occasions in failings of the elders/ branches. but

  there might also be far more vigilance (not vigilanti ) in the local congregations, that are not in the limelight. After all, I have not seen any group of people where mores are more defined, watched, controlled than in lapland .

  lapland the wt since 1914, particularly since the overlapping after the demise of that bachelor, , Fr.Franz.
  
  
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  It just seems that there isn't enough in it to pin it to them

  by joe134cd in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i was just thinking this morning about the court cases wt is facing and although i do think there are enough of them is there just enough in them to pin it to wt.

  i sort of get the feeling a lot of these cases are revolving around the definition of terms and also an attitude of could-a, should-a, would-a.

  even with the latest example it raised more questions than solutions and i'm guessing that's why it was settled out of court.

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  waton

  The Catholic church admitted that 1in 7 priest abused minors. often multiple times in multiple locations,(and that does not include the rank & file). By comparison wt runs a clean maschine. Evolution has primed males to mate with ideal, young females. look at the mags centerfolds, the haute couture gangways to get the picture. Modern laws have removed this prime younger market segment from the 18-68 competition. The reptile in us is not tamed, and. wt is caught in the squeeze.
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  Self Brainwashing

  by OnTheWayOut in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i would love to hear and make more comments here on how "self-brainwashing" is done in jehovah's witnesses and how it becomes a problem when trying to wake up our loved ones.leah remini was on bill maher's show on friday, feb. 17th.

  she had some great comments about things said on her series about scientology.

  one was how members are "self-brainwashing" because they spend some hours every day doing self-study.

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  waton

  commenting at meetings, refuting objections in the "ministry" are ways that jws brainwash themselves, ( it is actually not a wash, but self contamination with fables, talking snake,--)
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  Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the February 19, 2017 WT Study (DECEMBER 2016)(ANXIETY)

  by blondie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  blondie’s comments you will not hear at the february 19, 2017 wt study (december 2016) (throw anxiety jehovah).

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-december-2016/.

  excellent general website: www.jwfacts.com .

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  waton

  Top of pages 22,23 Practical Ways to Reduce Anxiety: 1-7:

  2: have realistic Expectations Ecc. 7:16 : comment:

  relax, don't worry about Armageddon. The wt anointed generation started to overlap after 1992, after the death of Fr. Franz. We are less than 24 years into the overlap.

  Some Laplanders*** live to +107 years, even after a baptism at 9. so : relax, be realistic, 2075 is far away, go to

  1: Set appropriate priorities : --right. make the best of the next 60 years. and the wt leaders will pass away, they will end before the end.
  *** whether Swedish, Norwegian, Finnish or not.