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  The spinning blade of a Sword and the 2 Angels guarding the gate....

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. bible

  for some reason i found myself shaking my head once again in disbelief at the story in genesis.. amongst all things, the very concept of a "flaming sword" spinning around and blocking the "entrance to the garden of eden" is so stupid!.

  do people really believe that as a fact?.

  seriously, swords were not even invented at that time!

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  doubtfull1799

  Good point @redpiltwice - what a waste of talent!
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  The spinning blade of a Sword and the 2 Angels guarding the gate....

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for some reason i found myself shaking my head once again in disbelief at the story in genesis.. amongst all things, the very concept of a "flaming sword" spinning around and blocking the "entrance to the garden of eden" is so stupid!.

  do people really believe that as a fact?.

  seriously, swords were not even invented at that time!

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  I've come to the conclusion that its all about theatrics. If God exists as he is portrayed in the Bible he must have been a theatre major. The angels would have been sufficient to guard the garden. If he wanted to kill everyone he could have just zapped them. The sword, the flood, its all just theatrics...
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  International Covention...my elevator ride with head of Bethel and his ass kiss assistant!!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  melbourne international convention australia, thousands of watchtower robots and i happened to get in an elevator with viv mouritz one of the main men at bethel.

  he had a young pretty sister who was escorting him around.

  i stood behind them and rocognized him instantly.

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  Hey I remember that convention well too. It was my last one before I woke up. I was asleep then, but even so I still found S.Lett's antics very disturbing...
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  Are Witnesses TRULY Honest, Humble and Hungry? (The 3 H's)

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  how many times did we hear the worn out expression "that anyone who accepts the "truth" needs to have the 3 h's".

  yes, they must be "honest hearted.

  hungry for truth, and humble enough to accept that they need to change".

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  Absolutely, but that new H replaces the others, not adds to them.
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  Who holds the Burden Of Proof?

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  when we as former witnesses wake up and choose to leave the society, it is mainly because we value truth and honesty.. the society tries to make out that we are in the wrong.

  that we have "left the truth".. but, who really holds the burden of proof?

  do we (who leave) need to prove that the society is not the "truth", or does the society need to prove that it is the "truth".. thoughts?.

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  I think the burden of proof should always be on the one making the claim of truth. It is not up to us to falsify it. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence is the Atheist motto, right?
  I was thinking of another issue along the same lines - how we always get accused of "leaving Jehovah." Yet is that accurate? Is it not in fact God who is absent? God who is silent? Though I used to convince myself otherwise by a process of confirmation bias, the fact is that God has never done anything for me or answered me when I prayed to Him... it was all a one sided affair. So how can you have left a person who was never even there for you in the first place?
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  What is behind your choice of forum user name?

  by stuckinarut2 in

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  2. friends

  just curious how we all think.. what prompted or influenced your choice of username for this forum?.

  there are some really amazing names, and it would be great to hear the stories behind them.... mine was nothing fancy.

  i just felt "stuck in a rut too" along with so many others.

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  Mine, of course, is a reference to the date that used to be what 1914 is now - the start of the time of the end or the last days.... the anti-1914 that has been whitewashed from Watchtower history so completely it didn't rate even one mention in the Proclaimers book or the new God's Kingdom Rules book (which does at least acknowledge 1877/88)

  It reminds me of the old adage: "Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it."

  The most recent Watchtower video that I commented on the other day again assures us that there could not possible be any other century which so perfectly fits the "sign." Yet 1799 reminds us that they thought the same things about the 19th Century. They were just as absolutely convinced (and wrong) as they are now!
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  William Malenfant's appalling hate speech - latest morning worship video

  by doubtfull1799 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so he tries to prove that we are living in the last days without any evidence, but instead a series of unsubstantiated assertions ("never has there been a time with so much lack love and affection").

  and uses things that are not even part of the so-called "sign" (abortions, pollution).

  then proceeds to ridicule the "ridiculers," stereotype them, and declare they are only fit for destruction!.

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  @steve2 Good point. He refuses to acknowledge how many of the "changes" in this century he is benefitting from.

  @Bluesbrother. So true. Anyone who thinks this century is more immoral or violent etc than any other is simply ignorant and needs to study history more...
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  Jehovah's Witnesses act like 'Flirts' with people!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we were just musing that jws act in a "flirtatious" manner with people in the community.. they show such "sincere" interest in people when they call.

  they seem like such kind, caring and thoughtful people - really interested in their lives and welfare.. people are often quite impressed with the jws manner, and their well dressed presentation.

  people (especially vulnerable ones who are going through difficult pressures in life), are drawn in and made to feel special by the witnesses as they call back.. return visits take place.

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  Interesting observation Stuck
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  Witnessing to two JW elders

  by Roger Kirkpatrick in

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  2. experiences

  i was approached by two jehovah’s witness elders who handed me a pamphlet advertising the jw .org website.

  each man carried a bible and an apple ipad.

  they told me that they enjoyed visiting with people about the bible, and asked if i was a bible reader.

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  doubtfull1799

  Well done
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  An early Hellenistic fable in the bible

  by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  jps (1917)... the trees went forth on a time to anoint a king over them; and they said unto the olive-tree: reign thou over us.

  and the trees said unto the vine: come thou, and reign over us.

  then said all the trees unto the bramble: come thou, and reign over us.

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  doubtfull1799

  Interesting... My knowledge is a bit lacking in this area. Thanks for sharing, will look into this further. Are there any other examples you know of?