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  the archangel, an archangel

  by AmyWatson916 in

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  2. beliefs

  i'm reading a book called "what to do when they knock" that goes over the jw book "what does the bible really teach?".

  it points out that the "bible really teach" book, on page 218, makes a bit of a point about there being only one archangel.

  it says michael is "the archangel" and emphasizes that "the" means only one.

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  Steel

  I remember watching Stephen Kings It as a kid and it just scared the hell out of me, but the ending was just stupid. I thought it was like the writers went on strike or they forgot to pay them, so they walked.

  The watchtower explanation of how Jesus is Michael to me is like the writers just gave up. Let's turn him into Michael so we can go home.

  The really stupid part is later in when I started to learn about old testament christogy and why certain verses are quoted in the new testament or what new testament writers believed, it became hell a stupid. It really became the issue that convinced me no jw should teach the bible to anyone.
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  I hate the Watchtower but I really still hate the Trinity Jesus is NOT God!

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  some bibles use the term "worship" when refering to jesus...at times people did fall down and bow to him........this doesn't show he was god!

  the greek term; proskeyneo, means to prostrate oneself, to bow down and show honour.

  now, this was done for jehovah.....and his representatives....jesus israelite kings and priests....but for the honour of jehovah not as creature worship which even angels would refuse.. also i studied the non-biblical early church gospels which really does show a slow decline over 150 years, into the trinity as the watchtower claims...........although i still hate the watchtower society at least i learnt something that wasn't a lie..

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  Steel

  The general understanding is Jesus is the angel of the Lord or word of the Lord in the old testament. Also you get some weird plurality in the old testament where the Lord is speaking to the Lord or jehovsh speaking to jehovsh.

  When you read the new testament it becomes pretty clear that the authors believed Jesus was the second visible jehovah of the old testament.

  This is only a message board so I am not going to write a book but do the research of appearances of Jesus in old testament . Then the pieces start to fall together.
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  Marry Only in the Lord

  by Rattigan350 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  last night at the meeting, a local needs talk preempted the regularly scheduled part.

  an elder who is the most society following elder talked about loving god and then he talked about bible principles such as marry only in the lord.

  he talked of deut.

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  Steel

  I was actually in the kh when they marked my wife. Still pisses me off to even think about it.

  Uhhh.

  I have made a promise to myself to take shit on that guys grave when he dies.
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  Are there 'ultra strict' congregations?

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i studied as a young adult, it was in one of those congregations.

  having viewed the religion as a quaint little band of christians it conpletely dumbfounded me when i was told about such rules as 1 - no beards.

  2 - you must wear a suit to meetings and while giving a talk.

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  Steel

  My wife went back to her first cong the other day because we went to visit my parents. The elders are notorious dickheads. Even other dubs have told us please don't judge us all by that Cong.

  After I asked her how many children were there in attendance. She said none. Literally the entire Gen x generation has been disfellowshiped. Those assholes are kind of the good guys. Even almost got my wife to leave.

  It's this hip and cool new cong that scares me more.
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  So... what's new with our favourite cult?

  by Paralipomenon in

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  2. friends

  hey all, haven't been around for a couple of years.

  anything interesting i should get caught up on?.

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  Steel

  They changed the meaning of the fds in 2012. It just means the governing body now.

  I think they figured out no one knows are even cares about theology so they just fired the 144000.

  I still can't believe that wasn't a bigger deal.
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  Jesus Christ dead for three days and three nights really?

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  has anyone done a detail research on this subject?

  the gospels seem to contradict one another and christians apologists have a bunch of different ways to try to explain away the problems.

  has anyone have a concrete explanation for or against him truly being dead three days and three nights as the story goes?.

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  Steel

  In the old testament there are certain compartments to sheol. For good people isn't a nice place, for bad people it is a crappy place.

  When Jesus went to sheol he cleaned it out for three days and sent everyone to there final resting place.

  According to mainstream Christianity.

  I just love seeing dubs explain who Jesus didn't exist for three days. It's funnier than the overlapping generation.
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  Eschatology based faith

  by Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my wife recently took a week off work to pioneer which really pissed me off because it kind of pissed away our summer holidays.

  of course i asked my typical questions about " do you actually know what the new covenant is ?

  or what is the point of all this time with the new understanding of the faithful slave.

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  It pisses me off each and every year to go to the memorial , listening to some talk about how the entire new testament isn't written for them because of some vague verses in some insane book of the bible.

  Yet not a single speaker could explain the book of Romans.

  Yuck
  
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  Eschatology based faith

  by Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my wife recently took a week off work to pioneer which really pissed me off because it kind of pissed away our summer holidays.

  of course i asked my typical questions about " do you actually know what the new covenant is ?

  or what is the point of all this time with the new understanding of the faithful slave.

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  Steel

  My wife recently took a week off work to pioneer which really pissed me off because it kind of pissed away our summer holidays. Of course I asked my typical questions about " do you actually know what the new covenant is ? or what is the point of all this time with the new understanding of the faithful slave.

  Of course I just got revelations based answers which I have learned not to pay no mind too. There was a time in life when I seriously studied this stuff till I realized its a basically just a wild card in the study of biblical theology. You can basically make the book of revelations say whatever you want too.

  When did you realize the WTS is just creating a new religion out of the most debateable parts of the bible ?

  Also when you do something like change the meaning of the faithful slave, what the hell do you really get out it ?
  
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  Another recorded Judicial Meeting...

  by NikL in

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  2. friends

  i've listened to quite a few but for some reason, this one has me really angry.. my heart goes out to the young family dealing with this bull shite.. give a listen.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifkpiqigq9c.

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  Steel

  Can someone give me the readers digest version? I will get too angry if I actually listen to it.
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  So, any comments from the Memorial?

  by NewYork44M in

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  2. friends

  perhaps i missed the comments, but i did not see a lot of comments from, or about, the memorial.

  it happened last night, right?.

  in years past the jwn board was hot with comments.

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  Steel

  Our speaker gave some nutty explaination about how the term born again was misunderstood. I found it quite offensive.