Posts by Steel

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What is the basis for advising “Don’t pursue higher studies”?

by venus in

two elders who visited my friend last week encouraged her not to pursue higher studies.

it seems they are dishing out the same old stuff: “the end is imminent, and this is the time to do more in the service; hence don’t waste your resources on higher studies.”.

i wonder whether there was some official communiqué (something that is sent out recently like letter to the elders, or kingdom ministry article …).

Steel

I always wonder how educated witnesses take this stuff with any seriousness or the whole wts as a whole serious.

Ever cong seems to have that engineer or accountant or doctor.

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i have a little sister havnt seen or heard from in 20 years she was da for attending a church she was 17 at the time she moved out and lived with a family not jw's in fact they are very a posed to jw's the past 20 years i've tried to make contact she won't respond all i know is she's got kids 2 or 3 of them she lives outside charlotte nc and works for a insurance company as an underwriter.

i think her husband is a police officer ?

being back in her life having a niece or nephew to watch grow up would be nice.

Steel

Don't worry. You haven't given up any real personal details.

Serious, how far away does she live? Go visit her.

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Follow up: the baby did not survive

by Captain Schmideo2 in

jw
friends

it was always a long shot anyway.

but, after a week of emotional pain for the mom, and extreme physical pain for a helpless infant, the baby's body finally succumbed.. all those prayers from the parents, from family, from friends, were absolutely worthless.

that is a deity for ya!

Steel

Unless this child died of some religious nonsense like blood transfusion or Christian scientist crap, just leave it alone. Say nothing.

As for the decision to deliver a stillborn or a child that will die shortly after, not every one thinks its cool to have your child unborn or not torn apart like a pulled pork at a BBQ. Tongs go in, out comes a leg, then an arm, then another arm etc etc.

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Follow up: the baby did not survive

by Captain Schmideo2 in

jw
friends

it was always a long shot anyway.

but, after a week of emotional pain for the mom, and extreme physical pain for a helpless infant, the baby's body finally succumbed.. all those prayers from the parents, from family, from friends, were absolutely worthless.

that is a deity for ya!

Steel

So does being non religious or an atheist somehow protect you from shitty things happening to you ? Does it prepare you better for tragedies?

Using the death of a child to mock religious people , even the dubs, is kind of a dick move IMHO.

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Follow up: the baby did not survive

by Captain Schmideo2 in

jw
friends

it was always a long shot anyway.

but, after a week of emotional pain for the mom, and extreme physical pain for a helpless infant, the baby's body finally succumbed.. all those prayers from the parents, from family, from friends, were absolutely worthless.

that is a deity for ya!

Steel

About a year ago my wife had a coworker whose child drowned at the lake. They were having a wake at the funeral home and she decided to go with a pile of watchtowers about death of a loved one.

I had tell her it would be incredibly rude and if they want to believe there child is in heaven with Jesus right now, just let them. Of course the whole thing turned into a huge fight.

Once we got to the funeral home and saw the grieving family, she quietly gave up on the idea and just gave her condolences.

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Follow up: the baby did not survive

by Captain Schmideo2 in

jw
friends

it was always a long shot anyway.

but, after a week of emotional pain for the mom, and extreme physical pain for a helpless infant, the baby's body finally succumbed.. all those prayers from the parents, from family, from friends, were absolutely worthless.

that is a deity for ya!

Steel

If this didn't happen to you personally, please don't use this tragedy to further a personal agenda.

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The start of a rough patch ahead...

by confused3426 in

jw
friends

last night i told my mom my true feelings on the organization and what i've learned so far.

it all started from a conversation, we need to go visit the new headquarters.

my mom has been studying and just recently became an unbaptized publisher in the spanish cong.

Steel

There are some real great videos on YouTube about the concept of Jesus in the old testament and some great debates between Muslim and Christian scholars about the diety of Christ. They are not anti witness or evangelical in nature. Just straight about academic theology.

If she is not a baptize yet try and convince her to take a look. Once you start placing it together as long as you are sincere in your bible study, it makes it really hard to take the wts very serious.

Unfortunately most are just social clubwitnessed. Even the ones who cry and say don't you love jehovah.

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It's right there in our faces, how could we NOT see it?

by NikL in

i know there have been many many posts on here over the years on the deity of jesus.. i am submitting this one because i am feeling a little confused.. the thing is, i am not the sharpest knife in the drawer and i know this.

so when i am going through my bible reading (to all you haters, yes i still do it) i see so many scriptures that just fly in the face of everything the jws teach about jesus.. i begin to wonder if indeed i am diseased in the mind ,as they will try to paint me, because it seems so plain to me.. i never even gave it a though growing up as to if jesus and god were equal.

i just didn't.. now when i read scriptures like philippians 9.... 9 for this very reason, god exalted him to a superior position+ and kindly gave him the name that is above every other name,+ 10 so that in the name of jesus every knee should bend—of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground+— 11 and every tongue should openly acknowledge that jesus christ is lord+ to the glory of god the father.. .

Steel

The argument against Jesus as God is kind of chicken and egg. If god comes to earth a fully human man is he really still god ?

Its really more a matter of manifestion or who new testament writers are referring too in the old testament. Instead of father and son there terms invisible and visible god should be used.

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It's right there in our faces, how could we NOT see it?

by NikL in

i know there have been many many posts on here over the years on the deity of jesus.. i am submitting this one because i am feeling a little confused.. the thing is, i am not the sharpest knife in the drawer and i know this.

so when i am going through my bible reading (to all you haters, yes i still do it) i see so many scriptures that just fly in the face of everything the jws teach about jesus.. i begin to wonder if indeed i am diseased in the mind ,as they will try to paint me, because it seems so plain to me.. i never even gave it a though growing up as to if jesus and god were equal.

i just didn't.. now when i read scriptures like philippians 9.... 9 for this very reason, god exalted him to a superior position+ and kindly gave him the name that is above every other name,+ 10 so that in the name of jesus every knee should bend—of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground+— 11 and every tongue should openly acknowledge that jesus christ is lord+ to the glory of god the father.. .

Steel

It does kind of piss a guy off being shunned and insulted by people who call themselves the true Christians who in reality don't even have a basic understanding of Christianity or how the new testament fullfills the old.

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Lots Of Whining And Complaining About Us JW's

by Deaconblues1914 in

in reading these posts, it sounds like a lot of you are very jealous of the wt.

society’s annual income and the money they/we have in the bank.

jehovah has indeed blessed us.

Steel

The watchtower and tract society is a belief that Jesus only died for anointed Christians who can only be understood by the faithful slave.

You believe you only can obtain your salvation by obedience and works to men and the organization they lead.

Unclean idol worship