Posts by Elijehovah

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Non JW girl with a JW guy

by Accio in

i want to talk about my story because i need help and advice and most impirtant a lot of comfort.. one year and a half ago i met a wonderful guy.

he was really nice and supporyed me during hard moments.

i slowly fell in love with him.

Well look how many people are married before ever becoming a JW. They are unevenly yoked, so it is claimed. BUT truth is that many religously divided marriages do not make religion an issue. There are many who do not celebrate Christmas, make no issue of it, but it doesn bring the other to that kingdom hall. nor does it baptize or convert the other person. Face it, there are JWs married to JWs who are unevenly yoked because both think they worship Jehovah and that the mate doesnt worship right. Then they get elders into it and destroy their marriage. Back in 1981 i met a Mormon in Utah and she went head over heels just because we danced great one night together at their disco. Took like 6 weeks and i got a dear John, mormons marry mormons card. It was so puking pathetic in words, none of them like her previous letters and cards.

The truth is most elders were baptized after marriage in the world. And when the glorious both-baptized marriage ends becuase the mate dies, they dont like anyone at the hall and leave to screw their heads off (_ss off) and come back married, or DFd. All this from a couple who always dissed anyone dating anyone. Whose better, whose worse. Not to mention the narking to get the guy you want by telling elders he's been seen with your competition you wish to push-out so that you have him to yourself. The games are plenty. Who wants them when they are the same games as in the world and reality TV.

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They have got to be making this stuff up!

by Atlantis in

they have got to be making this stuff up!

posted here: .

http://www.jw-archive.org/ .

Elijehovah

It only took 100 years for the apostles congregations to fall apart having love feasts and all kinds of new ways to add to Christ. Reminds me of his last words. I am always with you. Yeh and puking already 100 years later.

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Any explanation from the WT as to why Adam and Eve did not have sex before they sinned? (and other Genesis stumpers)

by BU2B in

(disclaimer- i know this is all fairy tales but i like to pick genesis apart since many millions still take it literally and is the foundtion of jw doctrine.

without genesis being real, the whole thing collpses).

i was just reading through genesis yesterday, and it really hit me.

Elijehovah

well your amazed... that Adams potential 1000s was reduced to 930 by the carbon-14 that angels put in our atmosphere by living here during his life for 540 years since his year 390. So he consumed this C-14 from angels for 540 years and it aged him. His sin was not to notice that, because his wife Eve might disagree. But Enoch noticed, and Enoch cursed Alulim at the city of Larsa because the first king Alulim was passing his kingship to Kichunna and Enoch condemned it so that Alulim struck him with anti-matter protons and positrons (antimatter electrons) to dematerialize Enoch alive into thin air in the name of God, killing him as a rebel to God, as they did to Jesus. But where are these angels now. This is why the angels must be bound before Jehovah puts the water canopy back up with the asteroid impact this year. You scholars can argue whether 400 years are four generations in Egypt or not based on Jacob to Moses or as 100 years per generation for people who live 175 like Abram whose son was at 100. BUT year 100 is here, and i await no WT to announce an asteroid. I await Obama to, and then all you people will have your own answers as to why, and how, and what to do.

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Any explanation from the WT as to why Adam and Eve did not have sex before they sinned? (and other Genesis stumpers)

by BU2B in

(disclaimer- i know this is all fairy tales but i like to pick genesis apart since many millions still take it literally and is the foundtion of jw doctrine.

without genesis being real, the whole thing collpses).

i was just reading through genesis yesterday, and it really hit me.

Elijehovah

Avatar? Elijah in the flesh from heaven? That's like Christ king Cyrus who returned 365 leap days after Noah's death (40-day seance of Xisuthros the spirit, Christos the spirit) from either Greek 2021bc December 25 to 561bc Dec 25, or Persian Zoroaster 2020bc Thoth 24 (Feb 2) to 560bc Feb 2 making Cyrus the return of Avatar Noah from heaven. I know what an aqvatar is, and i am not Lars. I assure you I am offended since i have seen Lars in Google alt.Jehovahs-witnesses

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Any explanation from the WT as to why Adam and Eve did not have sex before they sinned? (and other Genesis stumpers)

by BU2B in

(disclaimer- i know this is all fairy tales but i like to pick genesis apart since many millions still take it literally and is the foundtion of jw doctrine.

without genesis being real, the whole thing collpses).

i was just reading through genesis yesterday, and it really hit me.

Elijehovah

Sabbath Day Saturday. Did you know that the Egyptian new year for Moses in 1514bc was March 10 (Persian Pamenot 1) and that during the Thoth plague that Pharaoh declared the New Year as Thoth 1 (Saturday September 6) to no longer be the 7th month. This meant the 5 days added after 360 days would not be used in March but would be placed in August of 1513bc. Thoth would stay the same in this leap year 1513bc and thus be our Sunday September 5. The first of a new 7-day cycle created by Moses. This means in the 365-day calendar that Thoth would be Sunday every 7 years. If one calculated this you would have Thoth of Hamurabi;s ascension in 1793bc, you would have Thoth Sunday in 1842bc when 16-year old Esau sold his birthright, you would have Thoth Sunday in 1919bc before Sodom was destroyed in 1918bc on July 18. Thoth Sunday 2030bc Jan 13 the year the 365-day calendar was inaugurated with Year 340 on July 17. Thoth Sunday 2170bc Feb 17 before the Great Pyramid foundation that year. Thoth Sunday 2177bc Feb 19 for the year Nahor was born. Thoth Sunday 2240bc March 6 before Babel's Marduk foundation on Nov 18. And the last postFlood significant Thoth Sunday as 2303bc March 22 as the year Eber was born to father Shelah the Chaldean (Cainan The fallen Son) who fathered Peleg in 2269bc. In Assyria a 7-year cycle can be claimed as 600 years earlier presuming a 2968bc Arpaxad grandson of Noah 2 years after Flood 2970bc, And because it is 1722 years (246x 7 years) to 2303bc it can also be wrongly presumed that 4025bc was a Thoth Sunday presuming Adam created Saturday before sunset, goes to sleep and awakes Thoth Sunday. This cannot be done since years before the Flood were 360-day, and also because (despite others defying this because they will claim 1656 is 23 of 72 years of 365-day, which would be 23 of 73 years of 360-day, and so we have one false Hindu doctrine of 1656 Julian years as 1680 years of 360-day, versus 1656 egyptian years = to 1679 of 360-day. The point is that extending before the Flood disrupts the 7-year cycle by those who calculate it versus those who just say it is 1722 years from 4025bc Adam to 2303bc Thoth Sunday.

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Any explanation from the WT as to why Adam and Eve did not have sex before they sinned? (and other Genesis stumpers)

by BU2B in

(disclaimer- i know this is all fairy tales but i like to pick genesis apart since many millions still take it literally and is the foundtion of jw doctrine.

without genesis being real, the whole thing collpses).

i was just reading through genesis yesterday, and it really hit me.

Elijehovah

Amazing you can read that in 3 minutes

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Any explanation from the WT as to why Adam and Eve did not have sex before they sinned? (and other Genesis stumpers)

by BU2B in

(disclaimer- i know this is all fairy tales but i like to pick genesis apart since many millions still take it literally and is the foundtion of jw doctrine.

without genesis being real, the whole thing collpses).

i was just reading through genesis yesterday, and it really hit me.

Elijehovah

First of all sex by perfect humans does not mean pregnancy. Secondly, the human body is designed to kill germs inside us. This means that it has a defence system to rid intruders and even cancer cells. It doesnt mean cancer never forms; it means it is killed off. So too miscarriage is by design to prevent error in physical growth. A functioning body rids dysfunctional pregnancy. People imagine prefection instead of accepting that which is really perfect. Killing perfect jesus is the proof that they define perfect as different than Jesus was. Animqals have miscarriages too; it is not from man's sin. A dumb JW wife once said to me nothing in trees was poisonous until the two sinned.

Next, the open eyes means Adam was open to realize that other people like his wife are not required to obey everything a person tells them. Because she erred by taking a risk that Adam had warned her not to take (probably crab apples because the seeds without the bulk of apple fruit are easier to become overdosed by its cyanide; and no it was not the seeds or blood color of the pomegranate). BUT upon a person, or mother to his children choosing to say I disagree with your father, Adam's eyes were opened to the fact that the children could choose which person to believe, Father Adam or Mother Eve on every matter. The sin that began was her graduating to a state of mind that says i no longer take what you have learned into consideration without going to find out all by myself. So she dumped her teacher. And Adam sinned by saying his whole life, what will i do with this woman (even jesus had to say that about mother Mary wailing the wine was gone, so how dare jesus ever move out and leave widow Mary alone). Adam's decision was do nothing about her, so quit learning anything. The kids will listen to mom's way instead. The fact is clear that Cain as firstborn was like his father as firstborn, and that Eve saw wisdom and learning in Abel (he is NOT the 2nd son, he is the killed son, and Seth is not the 3rd son, he is the wise one growing up like Abel, becoming father of Enoch and later Noah). The story has nothing to do with order of birth. In fact this is why Rebecca was right about Jacob, and Isaac did not curse her for dressing him like Esau. The matter of Esau selling the birthright apparently was secret until Rebecca told Isaac after jacob was blessed. So this is very much like Eve favoring Abel whether due to her thinking Cain dominated him as older brother the way Adam dominated Eve saying obey this time. The point is Adam heads to death at 930 and he doesnt know why nor how to stop it. The fact is the how and why is he ignored that angels make flesh the easy way, carbon from nitrogen air and thus daily pump C-14 into out air where we ingest it into our DNA for the first 20 to 30 years of life. Thus thousands of years potential was reduced to the 900s, and when C-14 doubled on 2369bc January 6 it cut Noah's grandson in half (438 years) from the vegetation he ate his first 20 years to 2348bc. And Peleg's 20 years of 2269-2249bc had double the C-14 vegetation that Arpaxad had. I sent a letter to the WT in February 1985 disclosing that C-14 is purgable by diet and that the oldest survivors must start now or they will age after Armageddon and die like 600,000 who did not go into Canaan because they too died from listening to 10 men, not Moses.

Noah is guilty too. The Gilgamesh poem of 2040bc when Noah hits 930 and is then called Man (Man Nu is Manu) is about Noah not knowing the answer of why Peleg and other 5th generations at 230 are so old they will die. Cant walk, have disease, all the things of dying old people. Noah has only one answer and he says stay awake so you find the answer. Find that tree of life. GIlgamesh says to Noah that he wants to be like NOah and never die. Noah says i will die, and Gilgamesh says no you won't. Noah teaches Gilgamesh, but Gilgamesh keeps sleeping. Noah and his facts are all boring to Gilgamesh, just as I bore you by telling you these things. So Gilgamesh gets back to Ereck and he says he found the tree but the serpent stole it. Does this sound like many who post here?

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Reminder: Hate speech on this forum is NOT tolerated

by Simon in

some of the comments on the anthony morris topics have been despicable.. if someone is an idiot or a biggot then they are damaging themselves.. if 'we' start posting vile filth, insults and threats then it doesn't convince anyone other than we're probably as bad..

Elijehovah

You have the problem of defining hate speech. Jesus says you hypocrite youre a viper. And so you delete him in your forum? In which case youre not anti-WT youre anti- Jesus and anti-Bible and on and on. He says drink my blood and eat my flesh and so you delete him again, this time he is blocked forever? Again what he stated is fact, leaders are evil just like members are. Again he states a fact, that people who are saved by anyone will have a leader who lost his blood and flesh, but a death of a leader saves his followers. THEY survive, they eat.

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JW history buffs questions for you.

by Crazyguy in

i was reading the book 'time at hand' by russell dated 1889 volume 2. in the book russell says that the 'day of the lord',' day of trouble' started in 1873.. i thought he was with boubor on the time of jesus so called start of his heavely kingdom to be 1878, of course after boubor prodicted 1878 as the year for armagedon and it didnt happen so he substituted "his presence" instead.

but this book seems to state other wise??

please advise.. also after russell's perdiction of armagedon in 1914-15 did happen, didnt rutherford say some thing to the effect that 'yes the time had ended the gentile times, and were now in a new age and thats why that generation would not die etc.

Elijehovah

You have it crossed and wrong as most do if they study the books with hate to find fault.

The 4128bc Adam gave them an 1872AD year of 6000 of Adam. This was not Armageddon because 4128bc was not yet the 7th day. Russell did not write his first article until 1876, and did not write his first book until 1877. The 1874 year 6000 was Adventist, 30 years after Adventist Miller's 1844. In predicting Adventist 1874 the concept was taught that Exodus was 1615bc (before changed to 1515bc then 1513bc). The entry 40 years later was 1575bc. Jubilees of 50 years cycled to the year 626-625bc as the last before 607bc destruction. As the last Jubilee then a 50th as 50x 50 years to the year 1873-1874, or 1674-1875bc. The issue was of BC-AD confused the matter with 2500th being 2499 years. This is ALL before Russell and Adventist teaching for Russell. (Advent is all about The Coming or The Presence). This 1874 was thus presumed to be 6000 back to Day 6 which implies it to be Eve's creation ending that Day in 4126bc when Adam is an adult 2 years old. The 7 times by Russell then ends 40 years after 1874 and so he put his faith in it. If you check out true chronology from a 4025bc Adam (1am) to 2370bc Flood (1656am) then you will find that a 360-day calendar year begins year 6000 in 1913 and ends 6000 in 1914 as discovered by me Elijah from 1983-1997.

The 1878 is 3 1/2 years after 1874 stating Jesus collects his temple to heaven. This is where you have it wrong saying it is Armageddon when Russell has already published his 1877 book that the nations will end in 1914. Sadly my heart was disillusion last year in 2013 by being amazed at a New Orleans magician so that i gifted him an 1877 fifty cent piece i have carried in my wallet since 1990 when my prediction of the Gulf war came true (presuming the 7 years to a 1997 Armageddon asteroid. I valued it because it was the year Russell published and i was trusting 120-year warning from 1876 to 1996, ignoring that my NEW CITY extended to the year 2008-2009 with Nehemiah and Ezra and Malachi. The magician was so thankful that he showed me that the rope passed thru his hand because he wears a rubber fake thumb over his thumb. How simple religion like magicians can deceive their people. And look what i gave up for the answer that i didnt ask him to give me. I truly now see the secret was not worth the price i so willingly surrended. Much like Josephus who writes of the Roman General's wife who accepts to meet Mars in his temple and it becomes the adulterous gigolo who wanted to lay her, so upon the next day saying i had you, so give me some more today, her husband burned down Rome's temple of Mars and slaughter the priests who accepted the rich gigolo's payment (donation).

BUT so many claim predictions that fail were Armageddon; like the 1878 which was not, it was a rapture failure 36 years before 1914 Armageddon But this 1914 thus also had its invisible 3 1/2 years to 1918/1919 (the freeing from jail of a church-caused attack) as if a sign that the saints had been raised to heaven, starting with the 12 apostles. So too thousands accuse the 1925 (to 1928) earthly resurrection to the California Hotel Bethseda as an Armageddon failure. This is not true, it is an attacking lie. The 1914 is 960 years of the saints in heaven after 40 years on earth because it is 1000 from 1874. Then in 1925 it is 50 years from 1874 with 950 more to end that 1000-year reign. And it taught that this jubilee would begin flesh raised on earth. YES this is during the 1000 years. BUT this is stupid because save Viet Nam and the Catholics pick them all up. Save Korea and the Pentecostal and evangelists pick them up. If Abram awakes before Armageddon there will be a wicked world ready to snatch him up to say he is with us not with the Catholics, not with the JWs. There is no way an earthly mass resurrection would begin before wiping out the ones who think they'd collect them under their wing. BUT the point is that the liar will say it was Armageddon that failed in 1925. Now when i returned to my ministry by retiring in 2007. God Jehovah rewarded me by showing that the NEW CITY dates show that Jehovah deliberately left the WatchTower in 1925 so that Satan would come in from 1925-1928, and do the same to it as he did in Persia from 50 jubilees ago in 523-520bc. For 3 years the stones lay uncounted. So then the first date after 1914 isnt when Darius said Jehovah's name is on the temple (520bc and 1931 AD), but now here even the stupid issue of the 1925 prophecy is part of that sign that jehovah will force the saints to be Esther, as Mordecai likewise said to her to comply or you will be replaced. What was bad, error and sin, Jehovah has made good of it.

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Another elders kid goes down the tubes not to mention he is the monster of cleveland's nephew

by noni1974 in

http://www.19actionnews.com/story/24591538/ariel-castros-nephew-indicted-in-kiddie-porn-case.

i knew him since he was a baby, i remember when he was born.

sad fact is he was a spoiled brat and never disciplined for anything.

Elijehovah

MOMMIES BETHELITE. (Other families' children are demons to expell.) The death of Jesus proves that NOTHING is gained without sacrifice and slaughter of something else, (even if it is people). For every JW mother who claims her son is the next Bethelite, she is killing the children of other mothers. Example, my brother back when he was 60 told a story of my mother's Italian violence that never got smoothed out just by being a JW. What people change for others outside their family, many times the family is getting abused or sacrificed to be nicer to sisters or brothers at the Hall. An example was well stated in the recent movie ENOUGH SAID where Julia Dreyfus' daughter says NEXT thing youll know youll give this neighbor girl my bedroom, AND the girl's mom comes over and says this is my daughter not yours. My brother sat in the kitchen while my sister 6 years younger was washing dishes. She set the milk glass vass in the water and it fell apart. Brother had broke it a Elmer's glued it. He was happy and glad that sister got violently beaten for not being gentle with the glass. He wasnt ever going to say he had broke it. Better her beaten in mom's fit of rage than him. (Sis is now going back to the Hall at 58, which is a joke because she had my mom thinking she would not socialize with my baptized homo brother and his sugar daddy. I told mom, no, she thinks i'm the homo, and she will go back to my brother regularly once i quit associating with him and his pagan holidays. Prediction came true. Her back at the Hall is also back with baptized brother homo regularly driving the 3 hours to go see him and stay. As they are blind to Castro and Ariel, they choose to be blind in anything. Look at all the people on YouTube who claim DF in absenteism yet hundreds have stayed with my brother and lover in vacation resort as their guests. Dont let anyone convince you that truth is not truth if demons are running the show. Truth that i know is truth is not effected by the fact my brother is not DF in absent while 1000s of others are. If you dont like that, hey go sue them.

On the net someone said to their children that theyll have two new children after Armageddon and give them the same two names. MY issue is not being critic to bad behavior, but rather reinforcing what Jesus said that sacrifice is always made. He said the seed must die to grow the tree. It means the seed must vanish or change its shape; cant have your seed and eat it too. Sacrifice? yes, one elder had a son whose family would not approve of marrying a black person (though an in-law did and then moved to California). Yet he didnt like this black pioneer anyways, so why it matters! Well she liked him, and her family was elders too, so that meant she had to go say that he was showing interest in those worldly girls at school. In other words, i want you, but if i cant have you, i will nark on you, not for your better protection, or snatch you from the fire, but because youre suppose to want me like i want you. The guy married in the truth, but like so many, went out of town to get his wife where people's nose isnt up your butt on the dating relationship. Meanwhile Miss pioneer got engaged to out of town too, and the breakup by her telling him what kind of sex life she wanted didnt effect her pioneer status. Can only imagine, but perhaps not too difficult when her pioneer jokes in service was about Elephants are gray and cum in quarts. Like Jesus said things are slaughtered and sacrificed, the good for the bad, the bad for the good. There is loss, there is destruction, as Daniel said God has decided that the lessons for man will be proven by destructions.

So someone died for the whitewash this kid once had, and then he died but it didnt restore all those who had been slaughtered to hide his faults growing up. I have been there. I was labeled apostate for telling an elder that the noon darkness upon Jesus' death is not a total eclipse of the sun by the moon because it is a day of full moon, a total eclipse of that full moon at midnight. His remark as he rolled his eyes was did you get anything else out of my talk as if he judged me to seek and look and wait to find the error. This man later spent many years in 3-way sex while giving 3 consecutive weeks of district assembly talks before he got DFd for not being sorry. In fact he told a sister how to give a BJ to her husband without it getting labeled as penetration. Two elders driving her to Chicago district assembly while these words put her into tears in the back seat. I still wonder why people are blind. What do they think they sacrifice by saying a marriage license is God's permission to anal poke your wife. People who justify anything that is destroying body and life and others have ALWAYS and will always unveil it in their words when the topic ever comes up. Their kids and other kids hear this and then what people do at the Hall then has more effect than damn studies paragraph by paragraph. Study articles do not brain-wash; others who guide that study in how to interpret the study are the ones fabricating even beyond what the article says.