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  Have Jehovah's Witnesses Become Boring?

  by David_Jay in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  okay, that new video about 1975 has got people talking, and yes, the child abuse cases will always require us to remain vigilant...but after my having left in the late 1980s/early 1990s, it seems all the real "exciting" stuff is gone.

  when i left the witnesses were still preaching that the "generation that was old enough to understand the events of 1914" will not pass away before armageddon comes.

  no blood cards were our badges (not that stupid jw logo) and that card meant what it said, "no blood"!

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  konceptual99

  I had a conversation just last night with a old friend who has recently gone back to the faith. I explained to him much of how I feel and we had a good conversation but I made the point that there is no depth or substance to anything anymore. The old tomes of the 60s and 70s might have been self indulgent and based on sand but they reflected a form of intellectual and scholarly depth that no longer exists.

  Everything now is an appeal to emotion not to logic. For years I was proud that as Witnesses we didn't get all happy-clappy, we didn't use emotion but we really studied the Bible. It might seem naive now but there was some substance.

  Now the religion is everything it sneered at 20 years ago.

  I made the point to my friend that what is happening is the GB having a clear plan to move the faith into something that can survive long term. The change to grab property instead of be a publishing organisation along with the rebranding of the organisation and it's approach is part of the plan to try and make the org sustainable as their predictions once again fail.

  It was an interesting chat but completely in line with the OP's thoughts.
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  The convention releases are up on JW.org

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  assuming anyone cares :-).

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/jw-convention-releases/.

  they are releasing another bible story book targeted at kids.. sheesh!

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  konceptual99

  I think it's actually an African elephant. As if that makes it better of course...
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  The convention releases are up on JW.org

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  assuming anyone cares :-).

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/jw-convention-releases/.

  they are releasing another bible story book targeted at kids.. sheesh!

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  konceptual99

  That picture really isn't much different to this one...

  
  
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  The convention releases are up on JW.org

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  assuming anyone cares :-).

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/jw-convention-releases/.

  they are releasing another bible story book targeted at kids.. sheesh!

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  konceptual99

  Of course it is if you create your own animal taxonomy based on some random definition of the word "kind".

  I just wonder how long it took for the camels to getting peed off with the lion and gorilla crapping and slashing on their heads.
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  Lot's Wife - Connect the dots - JW.org

  by Funchback in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  yay!

  now kids can help draw lot's wife getting destroyed.. .

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  konceptual99

  It's not even new. It's been on the site for years...
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  The convention releases are up on JW.org

  by NikL in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  assuming anyone cares :-).

  https://www.jw.org/en/publications/jw-convention-releases/.

  they are releasing another bible story book targeted at kids.. sheesh!

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  konceptual99

  Looking at the Bible story book I was mildly impressed that they removed all the nightmare inducing graphic imagery that is prominent in other children's books published by them.

  Still plenty of room for the stereotypical Caucasian Adam and Eve....

  
  

  ... lots of nonsense about the Flood...

  
  

  
  

  ....burning destruction of hundreds of people...

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  ... some iron age justice...

  
  

  
  

  ... and unkeepable promises about the Paradise...

  

  So no real change there...
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  Humourous reactions to beards worn at the kingdom Hall

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. social
  2. humour

  is this the reaction you get when you walk into a kingdom hall sporting your new beard 🙄.

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  konceptual99

  Beards are now so common I really don't think they can be considered a sign someone is not toeing the line in other respects.
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  Major changes to convention security beginning in 2017

  by Edison Trent in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  short info on interesting changes to the major conventions this year: there will be a new security concept that will be implemented at all regional conventions in 2017.. similar to other major events (e.g.

  festivals, concerts), there will be admittance controls in stadiums.. - at each entrance, there will be a massive presence of attendants that look at each visitor.. - there will be pocket checks at the entrance.. - suspicious persons are no longer left on the convention grounds.. - suppliers to the stadium will be intensively inspected by attendants.. - there will be a special sign for attendants that must enter the stadium before 7.30 am.

  all others (even all attendants) can only enter after 7.30 am..

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  konceptual99

  I say again this is essentially old news in the U.K. We had to attend a day long "training" event 20 years ago and be told about our duties or not be allowed to attend. The need for an increasing number of brothers to have certain secular certification has been growing over the more recent years. Bag searches have been around for at least two years. I've not been an attendant for some time now and not aware of the detail but I know from others how much has been required in the recent years past.
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  Tattoos In the Kingdom?

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  with tattoos becoming ever more popular in today's culture, i couldn't help but wonder what happens when people with ostentatious tattoos seek baptism?

  are they admitted?

  many don't have the money to have them removed, yet i can't imagine they'd be allowed to do pioneer work.

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  konceptual99

  There is nothing stopping anyone with a tattoo from pioneering or being baptised.
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  2017 Convention Video To Be Shown Regarding The 1975 Failure

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go3arnnsfkk&feature=youtu.be.

  no mention whatsoever that it was watchtower themselves that strongly hinted towards this date.

  instead they blame those who "put their trust in a date, not jehovah".. let's recap... .

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  konceptual99

  I can't believe the WTS came up with this script knowing the wealth of content out there demonstrating that the whole idea of 1975 was seeded by some (at best) very leading statements that encouraged thinking on a short timeline. The 1974 KM quote is gold considering what the narrator says about selling up.

  It's almost as if there was someone awake writing this stuff but rather sobering to think that far more likely is the notion that the writers are actually so deeply in that this type of irony is so far over their heads to register in the least.