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  Do/did you sing in the Kingdom Hall meetings against you will?

  by Mr Fool in

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  i m a little curious because i have hard to see that every single person has the interest to stand up and sing in the beginning and in the end of every meeting...... what will happen if you are interested in the so called truth, not to stand up and sing a song against your will?!

  then, is it okay to sit down like normal when everybody else copy each other (stand up an sing a certain text/song) as parrots?.

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  konceptual99

  I don't sing now. I stand up though.
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  OMG!! Andre from the YPA video gave our Memorial talk.. My thoughts:

  by BU2B in

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  our memorial was held at a music hall with roughly 1300-1400 in attendance.

  there was a guest speaker from bethell, guess who??

  andre!

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  Cheers BU2B. I know the guy you mean.
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  OMG!! Andre from the YPA video gave our Memorial talk.. My thoughts:

  by BU2B in

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  our memorial was held at a music hall with roughly 1300-1400 in attendance.

  there was a guest speaker from bethell, guess who??

  andre!

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  konceptual99

  Which video is "Andre" in?

  The jw.org stuff whilst passing the emblems did not happen at our hall and sounds incredibly disrepectful.

  At least our speaker kept the web marketing until the closing comments.
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  Life for me as a jw (not really) teenager

  by DuvanMuvan in

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  2. experiences

  hey i joined this thread recently and thought this was a good way to introduce myself.

  i am 15, still going to school and i live in the uk.

  a good chunk of my mum's side of the family are jws.

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  Duvan - you will have a PM in the next few mins....
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  HOME SCHOOL and the upcoming generation of scientifically illiterate kids

  by Terry in

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  when i worked for a book store i became familiar with beka text books for home school.. i spoke with the mothers who came looking for them.

  i realized something didn't smell right.. then, i realized there are a couple of generations of fundamentalist kids who have had no exposure.

  to the scientific method, science facts or any conversancy with physics or biology or history as a result of beka textbooks.. in a nutshell here is the situation:.

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  I think it is obvious that it is possible for some home schooled children to far exceed the mean achievement levels of those schooled in public establishments (to use the US phrase).

  What none of us should lose sight of is the point of the original post. Home schooling is used by those with narrow agendas, often moulded by religious views, as a mechanism to restrict the exposure of their young ones to a diverse education that encourages critical thinking skills. Home schooling has gained some traction with Witnesses who think they are doing the best for their kids. They think they are providing them with the right level of knowledge, equiping them with just enough education to support a life of full time service to Jehovah (a.k.a the org). They think they are helping them avoid unwholesome influences.

  The reality is that they are producing young adults who are at a high risk of not having good critical thinking skills, are ill equipped to deal with life choices outside of the scope of narrow WTS goals and are condemed to perpetuate the prejudices and logical fallicies of their parents.

  Having said that, there are plenty of traditionally schooled Witness kids in exactly the same boat.
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  Anyone going to the memorial this year?

  by Pyramid God in

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  i was invited by my parents, and even though i have nothing but contempt for this religion, things have been good in our relationship so i was considering going just to appease them.

  anyone else?.

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  Sadly yes. With any luck however it may be the last one.
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  A point which virtually every JW will miss in this week's book study

  by sir82 in

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  from this week's book study, the "draw close to jehovah" book, chapter 5:.

  biologists have identified well over a million species of living things on earth; yet, opinions vary as to whether there may be as many as 10 million, 30 million, or more.. .

  wow!

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  Good point. It's possible to bring the point out in an answer if you are still attending. "It's so magnificent how Jehovah brought all these millions of specifics from just a few kinds on the ark. I looked it up in the IT book and it said...."
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  HOME SCHOOL and the upcoming generation of scientifically illiterate kids

  by Terry in

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  2. friends

  when i worked for a book store i became familiar with beka text books for home school.. i spoke with the mothers who came looking for them.

  i realized something didn't smell right.. then, i realized there are a couple of generations of fundamentalist kids who have had no exposure.

  to the scientific method, science facts or any conversancy with physics or biology or history as a result of beka textbooks.. in a nutshell here is the situation:.

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  I don't think Home Schooling itself is the issue - it's the quality and nature of the curriculum followed. There are some parents who are able to provide a better education that the mean in their area but the problem is that the majority of home school kids are doing it so their parents can manage the curriculum.

  Why do JW parents home school? Not so the kids get a better education but so that they can minimise contact with worldly kids and avoid subjects that may challange the faith of the child. They have no interest in further education. They simply want to mould the child to focus on "spiritual" goals.

  Ultimately the critical factor is the interest that the parents have in the child's education. Focusing on education as a key factor in enmpowering your children and their ability to have the freedom to make choices in life is not simply a case of choosing one method of education over another - it's about constantly monitoring the quality of the education being recieved and ensuring those implicit messages are clear and understandable.
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  Star Trails

  by ILoveTTATT in

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  one of the things that i have only done once... but i would love to do again and again until i perfect the technique, is called star trails.. my camera is a canon 60d.

  there is a way to "hack" the canon dslr's so that they get some amazing functionalities, such as taking a picture just by clapping (really cool for when you want to take a picture and no one is able to push the button) and taking pictures at certain intervals.. you can read more about this "hacking" on .

  http://www.magiclantern.fm/.

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  Hi Prologos

  The problem you will have pointing your camera at the southern celestial pole is that it will point to the ground. It is well below the horizon where you are.

  Keep doing what you are doing - you have some nice results.

  k99
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  Critique of Mar 2014 Awake on Creation by Alan Feuerbacher

  by jwfacts in

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  alan feuerbacher has written a tremendous critique of the march 2014 awake!, which contains a grossly dishonest discussion on creation.

  the pdf file can be downloaded from awake_march_2014_creation_critique.pdf.

  it highlights watchtower use of poor and contradictory reasoning..

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  There was a recent discussion on that other site about this recently. Although several posters were adamant that the 7000 day teaching is no longer there, which is the case, it is clear that the vague way this is presented leaves some at best confused and some old timers still sure 7000 and 49000 are special numbers in the context of the JW view of creation.

  The reference is here

  w87 1/1 QFR

  Second, a study of the fulfillment of Bible prophecy and of our location in the stream of time strongly indicate that each of the creative days (Genesis, chapter 1) is 7,000 years long. It is understood that Christ’s reign of a thousand years will bring to a close God’s 7,000-year ‘rest day,’ the last ‘day’ of the creative week. (Revelation 20:6; Genesis 2:2, 3) Based on this reasoning, the entire creative week would be 49,000 years long.

  this also....

  g88 12/8 What Does Genesis Really Say

  Was each one of those six days a literal 24-hour day? That is not what Genesis says. The word “day” in the Hebrew language (the language in which Genesis was written) can mean long periods of time, even thousands of years. (Compare Psalm 90:4; Genesis 2:4.) For example, “the seventh day” in which we now live is thousands of years long. (Genesis 2:2, 3) Hence, the evidence shows that the entire period of six days should be viewed as tens of thousands of years long.

  it-1 - Creation p545

  That a day can be longer than 24 hours is indicated by Genesis 2:4, which speaks of all the creative periods as one “day.” Also indicative of this is Peter’s inspired observation that “one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day.” (2Pe 3:8) Ascribing not just 24 hours but a longer period of time, thousands of years, to each of the creative days better harmonizes with the evidence found in the earth itself.

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  But is it reasonable to believe that everything on this earth was created in six days?
  There are some religious groups that teach that God created everything in six 24-hour days. But that is not what the Bible says.
  Genesis 1:3-31 tells how God prepared the already existing earth for human habitation. It says that this was done during a period of six days, but it does not say that these were 24-hour days. It is not unusual for a person to refer to his “grandfather’s day,” meaning that one’s entire lifetime. So, too, the Bible often uses the term “day” to describe an extended period of time. (Compare 2 Peter 3:8.) Thus the ‘days’ of Genesis chapter 1 could reasonably be thousands of years long.

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  Was all physical creation accomplished in just six days sometime within the past 6,000 to 10,000 years?
  The facts disagree with such a conclusion: (1) Light from the Andromeda nebula can be seen on a clear night in the northern hemisphere. It takes about 2,000,000 years for that light to reach the earth, indicating that the universe must be at least millions of years old. (2) End products of radioactive decay in rocks in the earth testify that some rock formations have been undisturbed for billions of years.
  Genesis 1:3-31 is not discussing the original creation of matter or of the heavenly bodies. It describes the preparation of the already existing earth for human habitation. This included creation of the basic kinds of vegetation, marine life, flying creatures, land animals, and the first human pair. All of this is said to have been done within a period of six “days.” However, the Hebrew word translated “day” has a variety of meanings, including ‘a long time; the time covering an extraordinary event.’ (Old Testament Word Studies, Grand Rapids, Mich.; 1978, W. Wilson, p. 109) The term used allows for the thought that each “day” could have been thousands of years in length.

  ba 5

  Similarly, religious fundamentalists today distort the Bible when they insist that the earth was created in six 24-hour days. (Genesis 1:3-31) Such a view agrees neither with science nor with the Bible. In the Bible, as in everyday speech, the word “day” is a flexible term, expressing units of time of varying lengths. At Genesis 2:4, all six creative days are referred to as one all-embracing “day.” The Hebrew word translated “day” in the Bible can simply mean “a long time.”6 So, there is no Biblical reason to insist that the days of creation were 24 hours each. By teaching otherwise, fundamentalists misrepresent the Bible.—See also 2 Peter 3:8.

  and so.. until 2002.