A few of us XJWs and victims in Victoria, Australia, are following this very closely, as too is one very large and reputable class action law firm that I know of.
See also my previous posts on this thread:
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Latest news from Australia - listen to this media discussion about suing a religion in Victoria over child abuse
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.abc.net.au/radio/melbourne/programs/mornings/daniel-andrews-and-francis-sullivan/9517566.
the topic discussed at the above link is related to this one i posted recently:.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5784750204649472/victoria-australia-survivors-sexual-abuse-able-sue-churches.
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NaijaNews Article: Here Are Seven Beliefs That Make Jehovah Witness Different From Other Christians
by AndersonsInfo in[the link states "six beliefs" but the title mentions "seven beliefs.
" looks like someone goofed!
here are seven beliefs that make jehovah witness different from other christians.
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jwleaks
AndersonsInfo - [The link states "Six Beliefs" but the title mentions "Seven Beliefs." Looks like someone goofed!]
No doubt the seventh belief is that JWs believe they have the best child protection policy in the world. It's just that no one has ever seen it to actually write positively about it, which could be why only six beliefs were written about.
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2018-List Of Publications Approved For Discard!
by Atlantis incopy & paste;.
atlantis listed only one form which is the s-60-e--2/18, but there are several items in the zipped folder.. .
2018 list of publications approved for discard.
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jwleaks
smiddy3 - Maybe Jehovah`s Witnesses need to get rid of the Christian Greek Scriptures / New Testament as those books do not support JW Theology/beliefs.
The current version of the JWs Christian Greek Scriptures contains a sub-heading inserted in the Scriptures that mentions the phrase "Governing Body" which supports current JW theology/beliefs whereas the older versions of the JW bible and the oldest manuscripts do not.
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2018-List Of Publications Approved For Discard!
by Atlantis incopy & paste;.
atlantis listed only one form which is the s-60-e--2/18, but there are several items in the zipped folder.. .
2018 list of publications approved for discard.
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jwleaks
Oooh look! JW version of the New Testament - "display then discard." Imagine a religion throwing out the teachings of Christ.
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Can anyone name a single incident when bethel has fed the poor ever ?
by Chook incharity is lacking from the house of god.
i remember reading once about some young pioneer sisters who needed emergency accommodation and where turn away from brooklyn because they weren’t special pioneers.
charity begins at home..
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jwleaks
Yes. I have noticed that the following members of the governing body of jehovah's witnesses:
- Geoffrey Jackson
- Mark Sanderson, and
- Anthony Morris III
have all taken a 'Vow of Poverty' and that they are all well fed by bethel and jehovah's sandwiches.
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2018-List Of Publications Approved For Discard!
by Atlantis incopy & paste;.
atlantis listed only one form which is the s-60-e--2/18, but there are several items in the zipped folder.. .
2018 list of publications approved for discard.
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Did the Bible make the list yet? -
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Idiotic Thread On A Cult Site
by FedUpJW inso as is my habit when i need a good laugh at stupid chat forum threads i popped in to the jay double u talk site and happened on this hilarious thread.
of course i have not read the whole thing, it was just too mentally painful to read those nitwits "reasoning"about "music".. why jehovah's witnesses do not use drums.... .
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jwleaks
Why Jehovah's Witnesses do not use drums... Evidently many a single Bethelite brother has given into the temptation of drums.
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Victoria, Australia:Survivors of sexual abuse to be able to sue churches
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-24/survivors-of-sexual-abuse-to-be-able-to-sue-churches/9481000.
sexual abuse survivors in victoria to be able to sue churches as government moves to end 'ellis defence'.
updated about 2 hours ago.
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jwleaks
smiddy3 - A class action is now plausable and can, once the legislation is put together by the Attorney-General of Victoria, be seriously looked into by class action law firms.
There is also a powerful letter in existence, signed by the Attorney-General of Victoria, that is heavily critical of the ongoing failure of Jehovah's Witnesses to comply with the law.
There are also court precedents in which Watchtower Australia testified as to the religion of Jehovah's Witnesses being responsible for any alleged criminal or unlawful activity in the state of Victoria, and not the corporation.
By the time the laws are introduced it will be ten full years of non-stop campaigning and fighting for justice in Victoria, i.e. 1 July 2008 - 30 June 2018. Countless court cases, human rights cases, investigations, prosecutions, two parliamentary inquiries, and a royal commission later have produced a mountain of evidence to support a class action. All that was left is to close the legal loophole.
If anyone does not believe that those in the state of Victoria, Australia, don't have the staying power they are only kidding themselves. To quote a friend: "The governing body believe and shudder."
Interesting times indeed.
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Victoria, Australia:Survivors of sexual abuse to be able to sue churches
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-24/survivors-of-sexual-abuse-to-be-able-to-sue-churches/9481000.
sexual abuse survivors in victoria to be able to sue churches as government moves to end 'ellis defence'.
updated about 2 hours ago.
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jwleaks
All the property they own Down Under eventually seized?
No and Yes.
Of recent times Watchtower Bible & Tract Society of Australia Ltd ("Watchtower Australia") have been trying to give the impression that Watchtower Australia and Jehovah's Witnesses are one and the same. They are not and this was clarified during the Australian Child Abuse Royal Commission ("ARC").
Watchtower Australia's official charity activities and outcomes are confined to "supporting congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses in the practice and advancement of the Christian religion founded on the Holy Bible as understood by the denomination of Christians known as "Jehovah's Witnesses.""
Therefore Watchtower Australia is not the denomination of Christians known as Jehovah's Witnesses.
Any proposed class action lawsuit against Watchtower Australia that is launched in the state of Victoria, Australia, say in relation to privacy breaches or working with children law breaches, cannot be made against the denomination of Christians known as "Jehovah's Witnesses" because they do not exist as a legal entity that can sue or be sued. This is the Ellis Defense, i.e. you cannot sue what does not exist.
Can you sue Watchtower Australia instead? They could argue that they are not the denomination of Christians known as "Jehovah's Witnesses" but support the congregations of Jehovah's Witnesses, therefore they should not be liable for any unlawful action or child abuse committed by the religion or its members. Fair argument that is often made in courtrooms across the United States.
Worth considering, and this is what class action law firms consider, Watchtower Australia does not have the assets or insurance to cover a large class action lawsuit. They do not have large real estate holdings. Below is an extract from the latest Financial records of Watchtower Australia.
The above amount is equivalent to US$1.5 million. That is pretty much all the assets that can be seized in any class action lawsuit.
So who holds the real estate, including branch office, assembly halls, and the hundreds of kingdom halls across Australia? They are held by separate property trusts, some of which are in fact the congregations themselves but not the congregation members.
This hiding of the assets in trust funds is what the new laws in the state of Victoria, Australia, seeks to address.
Under the new laws you do not have to sue Watchtower Australia. A class action lawsuit could pursue the denomination of Christians known as "Jehovah's Witnesses."
This religion would then have to nominate an underwriter for the amount of the class action lawsuit. They cannot nominate Watchtower Australia as they do not have the assets. If no underwriter is nominated then ALL of the real estate and kingdom halls held in trust become the financial guarantee.
This is where Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society of Pennsylvania comes in. They would have to nominate themselves for any financial payment in a class action lawsuit.
With Watch Tower Pennsylvania as the underwriters the class action law firms would now be prepared to carry out a forensic audit of any proposed class actions.
To put it simply you will be able to sue the members of the religion for the "sins" (i.e. crimes) of the religion. The assets of the religion which are held in trust can now be seized.
Stay tuned.
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Victoria, Australia:Survivors of sexual abuse to be able to sue churches
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-02-24/survivors-of-sexual-abuse-to-be-able-to-sue-churches/9481000.
sexual abuse survivors in victoria to be able to sue churches as government moves to end 'ellis defence'.
updated about 2 hours ago.
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jwleaks
If passed, the law will expose assets of the Catholic Church and other religious organisations, including Jehovah's Witnesses, to potential legal action from abuse victims and any class action lawsuits.
Religious entities would be required to nominate a proper defendant that can be sued and to keep it adequately funded or insured to cover the costs of any claim or judgement. This also means the "faithful and discreet slave" can be sued despite being a so-called 'theological arrangement'.
If they fail to voluntarily identify an entity, the property trusts operated by the 'church' would be automatically nominated as responsible for defending any lawsuit. This means that if the "faithful and discreet slave" don't answer the summons to court, like they failed to answer back in 2011 in the Magistrates' Court of Victoria, Australia, then the trust holders of the various kingdom halls and assembly halls can be nominated.
These laws will circumvent the current structure of Jehovah's Witnesses which removes the Watchtower corporation from liability as shown in illustration below.