JW: Even if it's not the truth, it's the best way to live.
REPLY: Unless you're one of the tens of thousands of JWs who have lost a loved because of the 'no blood' policy.
how many times did you hear that gem?
it often went along with "the truth is a protection" which is their way of saying "living a moral life is good for you ... and you can't do that without us".. but think about what people are really saying.
i think the real message is "i know it's not the truth, but i chose to follow it anyway".. it seems like a pre-emptive argument because they know they can't defend it as "the truth" so instead they switch to defending it as a lifestyle.. of course any kind of lifestyle that has a decent moral ingredient to it, respect for law and order, discipline etc... probably increases people's chances of doing better in life, but they don't have a monopoly on it.. so just remember, next time you hear someone saying "even if it's not the truth" what they are really admitting is that they already know it isn't..
JW: Even if it's not the truth, it's the best way to live.
REPLY: Unless you're one of the tens of thousands of JWs who have lost a loved because of the 'no blood' policy.
jehovah's witnesses mobilize global response to threat of ban in russia.
march 21, 2017. https://www.jw.org/en/news/releases/by-region/russia/jw-mobilize-global-response-to-threat-of-ban/.
new york—threatened with an imminent ban on their worship in russia, jehovah’s witnesses are responding with a direct appeal to kremlin and supreme court officials for relief through a global letter-writing campaign.
Russia is yet to officially recognize the receiving of one single letter.
I guess the GB will have to ask all the JWs to put how many letters they and their children sent to Russia in their monthly field service report. If this happens then all 8 million JWs will say 6 letters each or face questions from the body of elders.
just saw this profile pic in facebook.
made me chuckle.
https://www.facebook.com/eleanorconwayuk/photos/gm.119963091878435/10154964287646233/?type=3&theater.
I wonder what that JW elder is thinking as he watches the young woman hail a taxi.
high court will examine whether judicial review applies to membership decisions made by religious groups.
the supreme court of canada has agreed to hear an appeal involving a calgary man who was kicked out of his jehovah's witness church.. randy wall, a real estate agent was "disfellowshipped" from the highwood congregation for being drunk on two occasions and allegedly verbally abusing his wife.. as a result, he says his clients refused to do further business with him, so he argued his property and civil rights were affected.. after losing three internal church appeals of his expulsion, wall made an application with the court of queen's bench in calgary which ordered a hearing to first determine if there was jurisdiction for the court to hear the application.. decisions and appeals.
a judge decided the superior court did have jurisdiction to hear the application.. the church then appealed wall's decision to the alberta court of appeal, which upheld the court of queen's bench, affirming the court has jurisdiction to hear the matter.. one of the three appeal court judges dissented — arguing that congregations are private organizations akin to bridge clubs, whose decisions "are not enforceable promises and have limited, if any, impact outside its small circle.".
I for one am glad Watchtower is fighting this all the way. A ruling in Watchtower's favor could open the way for situation reversal, in that members of Christendom could actively prohibit themselves doing business with Jehovah's Witnesses as the religion, and its members, disassociated itself from Christendom knowing full well the Bible requires the practice of personal and business shunning.
Jayden MacEwan, the lawyer for the Highwood congregation, believes the courts have no place in this case. He stated in the interview "can the court decide who you should be forced or compelled to worship God with? Or is that not more just a purely personal decision?"
Is Watchtower claiming that an individual who does business with, or enters into commercial contracts with, another party is engaging in worship to God? Is Watchtower arguing that freedom of religion and freedom of worship applies equally to commercial contracts or business?
everybody here right now is busy "battening down the hatches" as they wait for the approach of a tropical cyclone.
a state of emergency has been declared in the district - the second one in as many weeks.
(the floodwaters from the tropical cyclone that hit just last week have still not drained away).. so far, the biggest hazard looks like it will be the storm surges from the ocean, and people living in some exposed coastal areas have already been evacuated.
I found this graphic showing the forecast movement of Ex Tropical Cyclone Cook as it prepares to slice a path through New Zealand. Stay safe.
just your thoughts....i've been all over this site, everyone says, that if jehovah was backing the org.
then why so many things happen in the org.
child abuse, shunning, and so on....but my question or thought is why is the banning of witnesses all over the media, but the arc isn't wasn't picked up in the media, like this (oh little leaks here and there, but nothing major) nothing like the nyt or any major media venue where the friends would see it and couldn't deny it, even if they wanted to....why does the media care more about banning witnesses than child abuse...i know even if the arc was exposed many of the friends would stay, but would be shamed, because they talked about other religions...or maybe jehovah is bringing the org.
"For it is better to suffer [in Russia] because you are doing good, if it is God’s will to allow it, than because you are doing evil [in Australia]." - 1 Peter 3:17
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/l/r1/lp-e?q=1+peter+3%3A17
In Russia the JWs are not reaping what they have sown. Therefore the protest and worldwide letter writing campaign.
In Australia the JWs were in fact reaping what they had sown. Therefore the silence.
"For it is better, if God’s will will have it so, to suffer in doing right than in doing wrong." - Byington translation
i heard recently that there was a talk given at the kh about having a 'go bag' ready because the big 'a' must be soooo close as evidenced by syria and the russian jobo thing.. does anyone know if this 'go bag' thing is substantiated in publications or just a local nut job being paranoid and attention seeking?.
i also wonder about this 'go bag' thing, apparently, you need to make sure your biscuits (that's cookies to my over the pond friends), are not out of date.
don't carry water, it's too heavy.. too many questions do i have.
JW go bags and survival kits are available here:
http://jw-supplies.com/Disaster-Preparedness-Emergency-Kits-Supplies-Go-Bags_c44.htm
a resident of a backwater swedish town called trelleborg was shocked to open his mailbox and find a letter addressed to none other than russia’s president, vladimir putin.
the only thing that per's home address has in common with the russian president’s is the number 23, while also noting that the town of trelleborg is roughly 1,532 kilometers (951 miles) from moscow.. .
when asked if he was curious about what's in the letter per replied "yes, of course i am.
The timing and circumstances are right for a misplaced JW campaign letter which was part of the governing body's worldwide letter writing to Putin launched on March 20. The post mark on the letter is "2017-03-26" ie March 26. Keep in mind that on March 23 a 'new light' revised instruction sheet was published because the governing body got the address of Putin wrong. They had the country on the address line above the postal code (same as the above letter) instead of below.
Interestingly the letter was sent to the village of Trelleborg.
I wonder what JWs would be saying if it was sent to the village of Trellejah?
a resident of a backwater swedish town called trelleborg was shocked to open his mailbox and find a letter addressed to none other than russia’s president, vladimir putin.
the only thing that per's home address has in common with the russian president’s is the number 23, while also noting that the town of trelleborg is roughly 1,532 kilometers (951 miles) from moscow.. .
when asked if he was curious about what's in the letter per replied "yes, of course i am.
this is the kind of government you are supporting.. over 100 gay men have been sent to concentration camps for homosexuals in chechnya and three people have been killed.. stop supporting fascism.. if you support the russia jw ban, what other thoughts and beliefs are you ok with policing?.
if you support the jw russia ban, have you read george orwell's 1984?
don't you realize you are advocating for literal fascism when you support the banning of a belief system?
Putin has nothing on jehovah when it comes to 'bad' rulership.
Right now jehovah is preparing his army to carry out the brutal mass killing of everyone in the world who does not support him and his ideology - which includes no freedom of religion, no freedom of belief, and no freedom of sexuality. Add to that if you decide he is not a god of love you get executed as well.
180,000 soldiers 'gassed' in one night by jehovah during a war.
The male first-born of every Egyptian 'gassed' in one night by jehovah.
Tens of thousands of babies and children deliberately drowned to death by jehovah in the days of Noah. There was no chance of survival. The Ark was not big enough to hold the children.
If Putin had his way right now he would ban 170,000 JWs from gathering together to worship jehovah.
If jehovah had his way right now he would kill 150 million Russians and leave only 170,000 JWs alive.
Don't ban Jehovah's Witnesses. They are not extremists. Ban the real extremist ... Jehovah.