I know you discussing a point with Elephant, but am I right or wrong?
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Jesus was an Angel and used God's name
by Christ Alone ininteresting stuff in the november wt.
note this dishonest quote:.
during his ministry, jesus.
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Organizational Chart of Jehovah's Witnesses
by cobaltcupcake ina friend of mine posted this on facebook.
it made me spit diet pepsi all over my screen!.
http://i.imgur.com/zrdgx.jpg.
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I LOVE IT! I would swap out " partakers who are Elder's or thier wives ( if bossy ) " for the first partakers slot as that would be more accurate. If you really want accuracy put any and all partakers who are not on the GB at the side with Jesus. The GB who supposedly represents them doesn't even care who they are.
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Post 666: Revelation--Its Grand Climax in 70 AD
by Londo111 inrevelation is the most misunderstood and misused book of the bible.
the branch davidians and other cults used revelation with deadly results.
fundamentalists have used it to prognosticate a future where the antichrist and his one world government mark people with microchips or barcodes during a seven year tribulation.
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Ok, so now what? What's next? Do you believe that we just live and die and go to heaven. What's up with everyone alive past 70 A.D ?? Just curious, not poking fun.
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Ok, thanks! I watched some youtube clips concerning this case. There were some statements supposedly made by the WT legal team that if true, are just incredible. Although I have no reason to doubt the man in the video, I wanted to read the records for myself.
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Thanks in advance.
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Jesus was an Angel and used God's name
by Christ Alone ininteresting stuff in the november wt.
note this dishonest quote:.
during his ministry, jesus.
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@ Jamie, What about Yeshua, is that the same as Yashiya?
@ elephant and christ alone and retrovirus,
I thought that only the Cherubs and Seraphs were pictured as having wings in the scriptures? Am I wrong? Plus that was in a vision, so who knows what a spirit being looks like. Also the angels on the Ark of the covenant had wings, but again the tabernacle and temple were all representations of the heavenly realm to help humans grasp the concept of what goes on in the spirit realm. So there is no reason to conclude that any angels had real wings. Any time angels appeared they looked like men and never had wings. There is also no scripture that equates Yashiya with Michael the Archangel. That is what the JW's " feel " is true. The fact is the Bible never says Yeshua is the Archangel anywhere, right? I know what you are saying Christ Alone, I had to give a number 3 assignment at the KH " Is Jesus Michael the Archangel " I learned that the scriptures do not teach this from my studies. This was before I woke up to TTATT. The " Bible Teach " book does teach that Jesus=Michael. I never answered the question in my assignment and there were some confused persons in the audience.
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Question about confession and the two witness rule
by jwfacts ini need clarification on whether a person can confess, say to fornication with an unknown worldly person, and be disfellowshipped, despite the two witness rule not being fulfilled?.
how about if a person confesses to fornication, but the other person is a brother and denies it.
can either be disfellowshipped, since there is only one witness?.
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They do what the legal department says. They can DF you or not, as long as the GB/slave?legal department has not given specific direction. If no specific dorection has been given then it is up to the mentality/mercy of the BOE, and of course how repentant they think you are. I know of instances where very scandulous affairs came to light and were public knowledge, and people were not DF'd. Then I know of other innocent mistakes involving alcohol where people were severely reproved because Elders were present and were no doubt worried about the reputations. Also, a person can be honest about a matter and refuse to have their thinking re-adjusted, and be deemed unrepentant. I think they do whatever they can get away with. I think the two-witness rule is applied when they want, and discarded when they want. The rank-and-file don't know any better and view these men as apostles and stars in the hand of Christ.
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They will be DFing me soon for apostasy...
by RayPublisher inwell i figured i should give you all an update.
they will be dfing me soon for apostasy.
it is not a huge surprise and i am not afraid nor "shaking in my boots", however i will admit it is stressful right now.
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@ Wontleave,
I like your style. You are right about so much. I think RayPublisher has done his home work. I get what you are saying about theocratic terminology in our speech. I don't know what specific instances you are referring to with RayPublisher, but I know he is trying to appeal to Jw's in the early stages of waking up to TTATT so he words thing accordingly. I have an upcoming " meeting " because of expressing my views. I am now a person of interests, LOL!! You are right about some Elders being sociopaths. When they say AMEN for Jehovah's spirit on the meeting, the emotions shut off and the gloves come off. The GB and " Slave " worship takes hold. I will tell everyone what happens with me. Maybe you can give me some pointers, if I have my final confrontation some day. My mistake is that I was honest, nothing more. I have seen the true faces of some, even some that said they were my friends.
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Overlapping Generation/GB/Doug Sanderson
by Simon Morley inmy apologies of this topic has been covered already - please redirect me if it has:.
current belief is:.
watchtower (study edition), april 15th, 2010 issue, pages 27-29:.
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STAY ALIVE.... TILL 2075!!!!
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Overlapping Generation/GB/Doug Sanderson
by Simon Morley inmy apologies of this topic has been covered already - please redirect me if it has:.
current belief is:.
watchtower (study edition), april 15th, 2010 issue, pages 27-29:.
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Interesting, so how long has The new gb on the block been partaking? Oh, it's private and they don't keep count anymore... how convenient..