Posts by r51785

brother hurd commented on the privilege of being at this special meeting, and that the governing body wished that the provision could have been made for all publishers, but it was simply not possible.. .

summary of the watchtower brother gary cross.

r51785

There are reports around the world acknowledging that there is no one like us. We are so peaceable, policeman at our conventions don’t know what to do with themselves, because we are sheeplike, meek and humble.

Yes we Jehovah's Witnesses are humble. In fact humility is our most admirable trait!

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What is significant about 9/11?

by Seeker in

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many jws have become excited by the events of 9/11 in the u.s., thinking that this is a definite sign of the imminent end of the system.

we have seen online jws talking about how these awful events were "prophecied in the bible" and how this is proof that armageddon is near.

we have heard reports of local jws saying the same things, including many of our family members.

r51785

You make some good points Seeker but the most important one relates to "American-centric thinking." Many terrible things have happened throughout human history but this is probably the worst thing that has happened on American soil in quite some time. Most Americans knowledge of history or even current events outside America is pitiful. Therefore this tragedy is magnified and given special significance.

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LOOKING FOR THE TRUTH - I AM NEW HERE

by erik in

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hi, my name is erik.

this is my first posting.

i was a witness from the age of 2-18. i was baptized in 1990 as a jehovah's witness.

r51785

It seems to me that your motive for returning to the JW religion is fear. Since you left the religion in 1992 many horrible things have happened throughout the world. For example the genocide in Rwanda or perhaps killer cyclones in Bangaladesh. Evidently these things did not bother you enough to return to the Kingdom Hall. It took something
happening in the USA to do that.
Is fear a good reason to have religious faith? Does not the scripture say that perfect love casts fear out. Isn't the fear of a fiery hell the thing which "Christendom" used to scare its followers into their churches. Is the JW use of Armageddon any different?
Bad things have happened throughout history. If you do not believe me and somehow think that our time is worse than all others, please go to the library and check out a copy of "A Distant Mirror" by Barbara Tuchman (one of the foremost historians of the twentieth century).
However you choose make it a choice based on reason and faith, not fear. I wish you all the best.

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JWs NOT TO SUPPORT OF GOVERNMENTS QUESTION

by hawkaw in

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can anyone give me some wt quotes of what jws should and should not do with governments.. ie.

salute flag and supoort us constitution etc?.

hawk

r51785

So we “render to all their dues, to him who calls for the tax, the tax; to him who calls for the tribute, the tribute; to him who calls for fear, such fear; to him who calls for honor, such honor.” (Romans 13:7)

Evidently the payment of taxes does not include taxes due the California Franchise Tax Board or the governmenet of France!

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WOL: Free to remarry

by Moxy in

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dont know if anyone pointed this thread out already or not but its pretty fascinating.

the incredible number of posts in a short time in what is normally a pretty slow forum shows how difficult a situation this for witnesses.

there are so many interesting and wacky comments being made there, you'll just have to read it for yourself.. http://www.witnessesonline.com/cgi-bin/cgiwrap/witnessesonline/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=6&t=000092.

r51785

Having read this thread on WOL really makes me think that these people live on a different planet. All night stakeouts, private investigators and special surveillance equipment -- where is this in the scriptures. When you have a man-made religion invented by a lawyer (Da Judge) this is what you get.

When I was a dub my wife and I seperated and she did indeed confess to the elders that she had taken up with someone else. Why she did this is beyond me -- she was no longer participating in the religion. I have never understood the penchant JW's have for turning themselves in to the elders. Anyway here in California there is a six month lag from the filing of a divorce and the issuance of final dissolution of the marriage. So I filed for divorce and the elders pulled me into a meeting where I was told how I must behave during the six month period. They advised me that if I was to sit next to a "sister" during a meeting that this would be like committing "adultery." Obviously dating was out of the question -- that surely would have got me disfellowshipped. What a krazy kult!!!!!!!!

r51785

"Do children have as much fun in childhood as adults do in adultery?"

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WHAT`s YOUR FAVORITE BEER!

by OUTLAW in

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i like molson canadian,except when i`m out of the country.then i only drink imported beer...molson canadian.

r51785

Being from SoCal, I like Mexican beer -- Pacifico and Bohemia.

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Latest UN info; 7:00 pm eastern time

by biblexaminer in

latest un information as of 7:00 pm eastern time (canada/us).

i spoke to the man who heads the ngo office at united nations headquarters.

i will not release his name at this point because i was asked not to by the individual who gave me the contact information.

r51785

The UN does not care about the WTBTS position on the UN because the WTBTS is irrelevant to 99.9999% of the world. It's as if the Rotary Club of South Peoria passed a resolution condemning the UN. Would the UN care? Of course not.
Will any JW's leave the organization over this? Probably not. The important thing here is that the WTBTS is not going to be able to use the status as a UN NGO to legitimize themselves with governments. My congratulations to those who worked to expose this deceit.

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Pledge of Allegiance

by Celia in

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poor jw kids all aver america :.

to: vermont school board members.

from: edie miller.

r51785

I too was raised a JW and so never said the pledge of allegiance. I say it now because I love my country and admire the ideals set forth in the pledge. My four year old daughter has just learned to say the pledge and tonight recited it for me. I am very very proud of her.