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  Another silly Bible story....Joshua and the killing hailstones

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  ◄ joshua 10:11 ►.

  and it came to pass, as they fled from before israel, and were in the going down to bethhoron, that the lord cast down great stones from heaven on them to azekah, and they died: they were more which died with hailstones than they whom the children of israel slew with the sword.. .

  looks like the amorites came to the battle only wearing helmets.

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  EverApostate,

  I agree with that. What I said about olam does not in any way rest on Russell. I also agree that eternity is is not part of the observeable universe. I also dont think it is a biblical idea either.
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  Algebra

  by HappyDad in

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  what the hell?

  it's after 4 am here in minnesota and my brain just won't shut down.

  of all things....in the middle of the night,algebra is bugging me.

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  JoenB75

  Yeah and teach the students angry destructive left wing dogma hostile to civilisation. Good you have people like Milo and Jordan Peterson 🤭
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  People that are shunned and those that shun mimic slavery

  by Yomama in

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  so im reading this book 1619 about slavery then it dawned on me that shunning like slavery emotionally rips apart families.

  if you look at romans 1:32 study note under natural afection they tell on themselves if you cannnot love your familey you cannot love others wow just wow try shareing that point with your pimi relatives..

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  JoenB75

  Nevertheless we have slowly improved living standards for all since reformation era.
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  People that are shunned and those that shun mimic slavery

  by Yomama in

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  so im reading this book 1619 about slavery then it dawned on me that shunning like slavery emotionally rips apart families.

  if you look at romans 1:32 study note under natural afection they tell on themselves if you cannnot love your familey you cannot love others wow just wow try shareing that point with your pimi relatives..

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  JoenB75

  In reality if you depend on your boss paying the monthly salary on time or the bank own your home, you are owned too. Slaves were ancient serfs and working class. It comes down to how they were treated. It is a thing of the modern left to consider slavery deplorable pr definition not realizing all socities have their low class carrying the bricks and eating and living with a lower standard. A moderne lack of understanding history in context I had say
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  People that are shunned and those that shun mimic slavery

  by Yomama in

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  so im reading this book 1619 about slavery then it dawned on me that shunning like slavery emotionally rips apart families.

  if you look at romans 1:32 study note under natural afection they tell on themselves if you cannnot love your familey you cannot love others wow just wow try shareing that point with your pimi relatives..

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  LongHairGirl, I think you are right. Conquered people were made slaves. They did have some race theory depending on how accomplished they considered the tribes to be
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  People that are shunned and those that shun mimic slavery

  by Yomama in

  1. jw
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  so im reading this book 1619 about slavery then it dawned on me that shunning like slavery emotionally rips apart families.

  if you look at romans 1:32 study note under natural afection they tell on themselves if you cannnot love your familey you cannot love others wow just wow try shareing that point with your pimi relatives..

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  JoenB75

  If the Bible had said directly that slavery should be abolished, the Romans could rightly have accused the Christians of wanting to tear down their society. I have always thought it was a little immature of the leftwing to expect the ancient book to condemn such a pillar in the ancient society. However Colossians 4:1 do tell the masters to play nice and remember they have a master (in heaven. The letter of Philemon seems to raise the question if it is possible for a Christian to keep another Christian as slave . On the other hand we should work hard in accordance with Ephesians 6:5
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  Why do TV networks keep "bleeping" out Trumps comments and statement?

  by RubaDub in

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  i don't understand it.

  we have a president who is typically considered a model for what young people want to be when they grow up.

  yet, when trump talks, the tv networks keep bleeping out so many of his words, even on fox news.. why?

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  Maybe they were pro smooth talkers. Here comes a man of the people who eats McD and isnt concerned with selling himself well
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  Another silly Bible story....Joshua and the killing hailstones

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ◄ joshua 10:11 ►.

  and it came to pass, as they fled from before israel, and were in the going down to bethhoron, that the lord cast down great stones from heaven on them to azekah, and they died: they were more which died with hailstones than they whom the children of israel slew with the sword.. .

  looks like the amorites came to the battle only wearing helmets.

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  Finkelstein,

  I might add i dont subscribe to the idea that you have to study all sorts of things. I know some Christian apologists use that and say well I studied this and that religion. It interests me little more than a rat's ass. You study what appeals to your mind and what God leads you too. If other people care about it too, then be my guest. That is why audience relevant new testament study is my main interest
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  Will Armageddon Survivors Be Able to Marry?

  by Expanded-Mind in

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  hi blondie!.

  thirteen years ago you commented on an idea circulating among some jws prior to 1975, that there was a possibility that armageddon survivors might not be able to marry.. "these vows that honor god are used—not from the bible but the only ones sanctioned by the wts.. for as long as we both shall live together on earth according to god's marital arrangement.. when i was in my 20’s, many jws interpreted this to mean that at some point in the 'new system' marriage would end.

  since this was shortly before 1975, many jws rushed to get married worried that they would never have the chance (and never have the chance to have sex.

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  Luke 20:36 says in the resurrection they do not marry cause they are like the angels. This matches the heavenly body talked of in 1 Corinthians15. But the Bible does not seem to address the JW doctrine of mortal earth dwellers in a literal millenium. I think it is sound to believe that the heavens and earth are covenantal in nature increasing in their dominion over the mortal world.
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  Another silly Bible story....Joshua and the killing hailstones

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ◄ joshua 10:11 ►.

  and it came to pass, as they fled from before israel, and were in the going down to bethhoron, that the lord cast down great stones from heaven on them to azekah, and they died: they were more which died with hailstones than they whom the children of israel slew with the sword.. .

  looks like the amorites came to the battle only wearing helmets.

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  JoenB75

  Everapostate,

  I knew your game, you naugthy apostate. Anyway this is basic stuff even CT Russell addressed. I found this interesting collection of rabbinical lexical definations on olam;

  · "long duration, antiquity, futurity: a. indefinite futurity , c. prep. for ever , always (= during the lifetime ); slave for ever ; serve for ever ; redemption at any time; ever pregnant (womb); of persecutors of Jeremiah; always at ease ; may the king live always ; so of the pious; I will sing for ever (as long as I live); other emotions and activities continuous through life. b. = continuous existence , (1) of things: the earth; other phr., heavens and contents, ruined cities, ruined lands or a witness for ever , in a book; (2) of nations: Babylon, of Judah; (3) families; the dynasty of Saul; house of Eli; (4) national relations: continual enmity ; of exclusion from; various relations; perpetual reproach , of dynasty of David, families ; of God’s covenant: everlasting covenant ; covenant with Noah ; God remembers it; will not break it, e. of God’s laws; temple to bear God’s name; consecrated; its ceremonies; Levit. priesthood; Aaronic priesthood. f. of God’s promises: his word; promised dynasty of David; of holy land; given, inherited; dwelt in; other blessings; Jerus. to abide" [BDB]

  · "long time, duration , usually eternal, eternity, but not in a philosophical sense"…[HALOT]

  · "1. everlasting, forever, eternity, i.e. , pertaining to an unlimited duration of time, usually with a focus on the future ( Ge 3:22 ); 2. ancient, old, i.e. , existing for a long time in the relative past ( 1Sa 27:8 ; Ps 119:52 ); 3. lasting, for a duration, i.e. , an undetermined duration of time without reference to other points of time, with a focus of no anticipated end, but nevertheless may have limits ( Nu 25:13 ; Jer 18:16 )" [Swanson, Dictionary of Biblical Languages with Semantic Domains : Hebrew (Old Testament) (electronic ed.). Oak Harbor: Logos Research Systems, Inc. 1997, 2001]