Posts by JoenB75

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Providing salvation is not that important

by pixel in

the washtowel has a crazy obsession with diminishing the important of jesus' sacrifice for humankind.

i find this so antichristian.

i mean, how can you ignore scriptures like john 3:16?.

JoenB75

Cofty,

Maybe I should clarify I meant what atheism sees as the biggest problem in relation to theism. I am sure you will agree the existence of evil realities is something atheists use in their preaching. Children die of starvation and so it is absurd to believe God hears prayers. So evil fates and our meditation concerning it make the existence of God impossible / absurd.

I am happy to say I have never believed in free will nor do I know what it is. God chooses, appoints, elects. Creation run its course and God intervenes. We are products of many conditions.

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Providing salvation is not that important

by pixel in

the washtowel has a crazy obsession with diminishing the important of jesus' sacrifice for humankind.

i find this so antichristian.

i mean, how can you ignore scriptures like john 3:16?.

JoenB75

Cofty,

I understand this to be a free speech zone. You are wellcome to "bite" as much as you want

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Providing salvation is not that important

by pixel in

the washtowel has a crazy obsession with diminishing the important of jesus' sacrifice for humankind.

i find this so antichristian.

i mean, how can you ignore scriptures like john 3:16?.

JoenB75

For the atheist, the biggest problem is the existence of evil. For the conservative Christian, "theologically rightminded protestant or catholic", the greatest problem of evil is the innocent sacrifice of Jesus, not starving babies born with inherint sin. To me, the sacrifice of God the Father as man, the Son of God, means that God participates in our creative suffering in a most mysterious and precious way. Don't make it too rational, it is not.

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Providing salvation is not that important

by pixel in

the washtowel has a crazy obsession with diminishing the important of jesus' sacrifice for humankind.

i find this so antichristian.

i mean, how can you ignore scriptures like john 3:16?.

JoenB75

Biblically it is not possible to separate the glory of God from his salvation. The universal confession of Jesus as Lord is to the glory of God the Father (Philippians 2:11). God created people for his glory and for his pleasure (Isaiah 43:6-7, Revelation 4:11). Our sins have been forgiven for “his name’s sake” (1 John 2:12).

Of course we agree that the JW doctrine on Jesus is grotesque. I saw Stephen Lett say "Jesus loves you, but more importantly Jehovah loves you".

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Providing salvation is not that important

by pixel in

the washtowel has a crazy obsession with diminishing the important of jesus' sacrifice for humankind.

i find this so antichristian.

i mean, how can you ignore scriptures like john 3:16?.

JoenB75

Pixel,

I see nothing in the particular quote contradicting the Word of God in Hebrews 5:7-10

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Flood over everest

by road to nowhere in

meeting part comment on how the flood covered everest.

that is even more ignorant than mountains being pushed up and eroding in a few thousand years.

and it wasnt cold either.. i should have commented on the bristlecone in the awake that survived the flood.

JoenB75

Well it took significant liberties with the record but it was faithful to the basic teachings of God reacting to / judging mankind's inherent sinfulness, they are accountable. Exciting movie .

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A Beautiful Day in The neighbourhood ,Mr Rogers.

by smiddy3 in

i saw this movie today and i am amazed that their were 31?

seasons of it ?

that it enthralled children and adults ?.

JoenB75

Well he was loved.

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Flood over everest

by road to nowhere in

meeting part comment on how the flood covered everest.

that is even more ignorant than mountains being pushed up and eroding in a few thousand years.

and it wasnt cold either.. i should have commented on the bristlecone in the awake that survived the flood.

JoenB75

There are some that go for old earth creationism and local flood. But that is probably to read western rationalism into the account. The water relates to baptism and animals are generally seen as obedient to God, the serpent excluded. There are many inducations of a symbolic containt such as talking snake, supernatural trees, vegetarian carnivores, a big boat that could contain a pair of each animal etc. Revelation continues the same covenant cosmotology. There is much symbolism in Scriptures and sometimes it is a real challenge to figure out what is not symbolic.

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Not invited to congregation “get togethers”. They finally said it

by solomon in

jw
friends

we don’t get many invitations to congregational social gatherings.

we don’t attend midweek meetings and miss about 1/3 of sunday meetings.

we go in service at least once a month.

JoenB75

Very typical. You are only in if you give all for the team unless you have a special priviledge such as being close family og a powerful elder. Herd tactics. Giving the icy treatment through shunning. I have heard numerous elder wifes discus the tactics

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Engaged and having a baby, I’m not JW fiancé is

by Viarayne in

i’m not interested in becoming a jehovah’s witness but have nothing against people who are, or whatever religion someone chooses to follow for that matter.

i am here because i have some questions regarding my family and i. .

my fiancé stopped going to church prior to us meeting.

JoenB75

We cant know what kind of jw family we are talking about. Is it harsh and ready to give the same treatment as in Not Without My Daughter or is it more liberal and with double standards for the inner circle. We do not know. Pray for God to show the way and be prepared