Posts by Drearyweather

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Are Elders prepared to take the fall for WT/GB misdemeanor's / crime ??

by smiddy3 in

i have been thinking about this in relation to the directive given to elders to destroy any incriminating evidence they may have either on their pc`s ,e-mails , private notes in their possession, or notes in their witnessing bags ,etc.

to do with child sexual abuse they may still have in their possession.. isn`t that encouraging the elders to interfere with the justice system ?.

to break the law?.

Drearyweather

What directives for destroying evidence are we talking about? Can someone post it here?

I have been in 3 JC's related to CSA and we were given explicit 25-page separate CSA directions to save every document in a folder/packet that was labeled "Do Not Destroy". NOTHING is to kept digitally, but on paper

In fact, even communications from WhatsApp, personal notes, and social media were to be printed out and saved in it. The documents had to be saved indefinitely even when the accusation proved to be false. Two copies of the entire docket are made, one for the branch and the other for the congregation. If the individual moves to another congregation, the JC meets the new congregation service committee and prepares the third docket for them.

Even the sfl and the Addendum says the same thing about retaining records

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Is Tony Morris a Nonce / Pedophile

by MebyonKernow in

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this has just been posted on youtube regarding tony morris and the reason why he was removed as a gb member and 'relocated'.is tony morris a pedophile / nonce?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ahj9vxygkelet me know your thoughts down below.celtic.

Drearyweather

Another one who has a soft spot in his heart for the Turd! 🤣

And everyone will be suddenly praising the turd when he writes a tell-all expose book of his version of the WT

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Is Tony Morris a Nonce / Pedophile

by MebyonKernow in

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friends

this has just been posted on youtube regarding tony morris and the reason why he was removed as a gb member and 'relocated'.is tony morris a pedophile / nonce?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ahj9vxygkelet me know your thoughts down below.celtic.

Drearyweather

Tony Morris can be accused of any and all problems that ex-JW;'s have faced during his tenure in the GB, not just CSA.

By that logic, should Raymond Franz be accused of covering up abuse cases that happened in the 70's? There are dozens of such cases filed across the US.

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Disfellowshipped for Fornication

by TxNVSue2023 in

hi i want to tell my story and get advice.

i'm a single sister ( in usa) that has been baptized for 20 years.

i came from the world, so did not grow up in the truth and i have no family in the truth -- i am alone.. last year i met a brother & we did have premarital sex while we were dating.

Drearyweather

I didn't know all of that. I'm from the world....
I wasn't aware that repentance had to involve the elders because I had already repented on my own

Hi Sue, you said that you have been a baptized witness for over 20 years. How could you not know about all these things? In JW's repentance for major sins like immorality always involves elders. That's the basic statement mentioned in the OD book:

"Some serious offenses, such as sexual immorality, adultery, homosexuality, blasphemy, apostasy, idolatry, and similar gross sins, require more than forgiveness. Because the spiritual and moral cleanness of the congregation are threatened, such serious sins must be reported to the elders and handled by them. Some individuals may approach the elders either to confess their own sin or to report what they know regarding the wrongdoing of others.If it is established that there is substance to the report and that evidence is available showing that a serious sin has been committed, the body of elders will assign a judicial committee of at least three elders to handle the matter."

I guess I can't wrap my head around the need to confess something that has already been resolved.

I am not sure about your reasoning. In the JW world marriage does not resolve your pre-marital sex. I hope you did'nt say this to your JC.

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Disfellowshipped for Fornication

by TxNVSue2023 in

hi i want to tell my story and get advice.

i'm a single sister ( in usa) that has been baptized for 20 years.

i came from the world, so did not grow up in the truth and i have no family in the truth -- i am alone.. last year i met a brother & we did have premarital sex while we were dating.

Drearyweather

You have seven days (from the date when they told you of the decision) to submit an appeal in writing stating why you feel a serious error in judgment has been made.

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Disfellowshipped for Fornication

by TxNVSue2023 in

hi i want to tell my story and get advice.

i'm a single sister ( in usa) that has been baptized for 20 years.

i came from the world, so did not grow up in the truth and i have no family in the truth -- i am alone.. last year i met a brother & we did have premarital sex while we were dating.

Drearyweather

Have you appealed the decision?

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Disfellowshipped for Fornication

by TxNVSue2023 in

hi i want to tell my story and get advice.

i'm a single sister ( in usa) that has been baptized for 20 years.

i came from the world, so did not grow up in the truth and i have no family in the truth -- i am alone.. last year i met a brother & we did have premarital sex while we were dating.

Drearyweather

I don't feel it's right that I was df'd when I was fully repentant.

That's where the problem is. The fact that you didn't confess on your own was the reason. The first question of the indicator of repentance in the elders' book is

Was his confession voluntary, or did he have to be accused by others?

But anyways, given that you were forthcoming in your answers, you will be accepted back within a year.

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New musical video on jw.org / humour or sad??

by Gorb in

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friends

today i discovered the musical highlight of jehovah's witnesses, recently added to jw.org.

we had "from house to house, from door to door", but this song will be more famous!

https://www.jw.org/finder?wtlocale=e&docid=1014316&srcid=share.

Drearyweather

This is not a new music. It was released 8 years ago.

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"My book of bible stories" is child abuse!!

by Witness 007 in

i once gave this book to a woman with kids at the door...to my shock my next visit she gave it back saying it was discusting and full of violence and sex!

this book was clearly written by some bethel loser with no kids.

i don't understand why witnesses don't have a separate kids school..

Drearyweather

You didn't know that the book had such stories before you gave it to her?

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No more judicial committee if maybe suicidal

by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

the new direction in the new elders book is very clear.

absolutely no jd if there is a suspicion of suicidal thoughts.. this is obviously due to the high number of suicidal attempts after the announcement that someone is no longer a jw and the shunning that accompanied it.. so what will happen now going forward if situations arise where there would formerly have been a jd and they say there is suicidal thoughts?.

i can’t see it working, but elders stick rigidly to what it says in the book.

Drearyweather

The change now is that the JC will not even be formed or go ahead

That's not the case.

The recent direction says: In judicial cases in which the accused threatens suicide, it may be best for the committee to suspend the hearing to focus on helping him regain his balance.

The Judicial Committee is always formed if the wrongdoing ticks the list mentioned in Chapter 12. Only the hearing is suspended.