Actually, the change in field service requirements doesn't make a massive change in the JW world. Those who were not serious enough in the past will continue to remain so, albeit they don't have to fake a number for their reports again. Die-hard JW's will continue their work as is or join the Aux pioneer or Reg pioneer ranks if they want to report their numbers.
Drearyweather
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“You know how I know that they're finished out there? The carts.”
by Athanasius inthe watchtower's many legal problems and the jws' use of carts in their preaching work, reminded me of a scene and dialog from the film patton.. in a scene where patton is viewing a battle site the morning after, he says to an aide about the nazis: “you know how i know that they're finished out there?
in my dreams i saw the carts.
they kept buzzing around in my head and i couldn't figure out why.
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Life in a spiritual (UN)-paradise
by Reasonfirst ina long, long time ago, when i was young, i became a 'special' pioneer.
it meant that i had to spend 150 hours a month, and i received a small allowance.
i was then assigned to a small country congregation, in western nsw (australia).
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Drearyweather
Reasonfirst, would be interesting to know what you personally did to help the people in that congregation.
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The 7th burn victim (a 78 year old JW man) died yesterday. 4 more remain in critical condition.
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How Do Jehovah's Witnesses View Education?
by southyukon ini have a question about this article.. https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/jw-education-school/.
higher education can lead to moral and spiritual dangers.
a bible proverb says: "the shrewd one sees the danger and conceals himself.
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Most of the higher education stuff is just on paper. It depends on how your local elders view you. In my congregation, all 4 elders are young married men, raised in the truth, and university graduates, one of them even a postgraduate with a P.hD. You need to know your way through people to succeed in any organization, even the JW's. If you don't, then you are screwed, whether you pursue a college education or not.
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Did Geoffrey Jackson lie under oath at the ARC?
by Vanderhoven7 ini understand he intimated that the faithful slave was not the only spokesman for jehovah god.
he also intimated that corporal punishment was not advocated by the wts.
we're these lies or deception or did they represent the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?.
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The only conclusion that can be made from this is that you admit prior to the 80s the org. taught parents to be abusive when it came to discipline.
Interesting,Of course I meant that. There is nothing to admit. All JW's in during the 80 and 90's including us knew that the using the rod meant spanking your child. People were not suddenly spanking their kids after becoming JW's and reading the articles about it. It was an accepted form of punishment in many lands.
Now whether spanking your kid constitutes "abuse" is a different spectrum of discussion.
Also, my point was that at the time of the ARC testimony, JW's didn't endorse corporal punishment.
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Did Geoffrey Jackson lie under oath at the ARC?
by Vanderhoven7 ini understand he intimated that the faithful slave was not the only spokesman for jehovah god.
he also intimated that corporal punishment was not advocated by the wts.
we're these lies or deception or did they represent the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?.
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Drearyweather
WT's view on corporal punishment has changed since the 1980's and the 90's:
The Bible associates such discipline, or instruction, with love. (Proverbs 13:24) Therefore, “the rod of discipline” should never be abusive—emotionally or physically.a (Proverbs 22:15; 29:15) Discipline that is rigid or harsh with no sense of love is an abuse of parental authority and can crush a child’s spirit. (Colossians 3:21)
In Bible times, the Hebrew word for “rod” meant a stick or a staff, such as the one a shepherd used to guide his sheep. (Psalm 23:4) Similarly, “the rod” of parental authority suggests loving guidance, not harsh or brutal punishment.
“The rod” refers to parental authority that must be applied lovingly to prevent children from going astray. Wielding such authority does not involve abusing the child in any way.
But parental authority—“the rod of discipline”—should never be abusive.b
Some shy away from the word “rod,” thinking that it implies some kind of child abuse. But it does not. The Hebrew word for “rod” referred to a staff, such as the one a shepherd used to guide—not assault—his sheep.a So the rod stands for discipline.
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BREAKING NEWS | Highlights of 2023 Worldwide Service Year Report
by Drearyweather inbreaking news | highlights of 2023 worldwide service year report.
on november 15, 2023, the service committee of the governing body shared highlights of the 2023 worldwide service year report with the bethel family.
the following exciting increases were announced: baptisms: during the 2023 service year, 269,517 persons were baptized.
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Local KH accounts tells only monies in, expenditures, and remaining balance, which had not be too large. No breakdown on utilities, required payoffs, etc.Years ago I detailed every expense so the congregation knew where things were spent
According to the direction, the full accounts report, along with the breakup of the expenditures is posted on the congregation notice board till the next accounts report comes in. So anyone in the congregation can go and read it.
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Will the GB Eventually "observe" Tithing?
by Sea Breeze infound this on fb from the recent losch talk.
time for a new business model?.
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Now, it appears this average monthly "donation" per person has been implemented on each Cong.
Actually, this arrangement has been around for a number of years. The amount is 'suggested', which means the local body decides to send more or less than that. For e.g. my congregation which has quite a lot of wealthy families sends four times that number, whereas in the neighboring city, a congregation sends just a quarter of that donation. Many JW's send contributions directly to the branch offices through the website.
One of my friends from Bethel says that there is no shortage of money pouring in as there are more than enough wealthy JW congregations and families to keep the organization floating.
Until the core membership is strong, the GB doesn't care how many PIMO JW's on the fence keep falling off. There's not much money that comes from the PIMOs either ways as most stop contributing and just prod along for their families.
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BREAKING NEWS | Highlights of 2023 Worldwide Service Year Report
by Drearyweather inbreaking news | highlights of 2023 worldwide service year report.
on november 15, 2023, the service committee of the governing body shared highlights of the 2023 worldwide service year report with the bethel family.
the following exciting increases were announced: baptisms: during the 2023 service year, 269,517 persons were baptized.
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BREAKING NEWS | Highlights of 2023 Worldwide Service Year Report
On November 15, 2023, the Service Committee of the Governing Body shared highlights of the 2023 worldwide service year report with the Bethel family. The following exciting increases were announced: Baptisms: During the 2023 service year, 269,517 persons were baptized. That represents an 85-percent increase over the 2022 service year! Bible studies: On average, Bible studies were up 28.5 percent to 7,281,212. Memorial attendance worldwide was 20,461,767, an increase of nearly 4 percent. In fact, 20 lands reported all-time peaks in Memorial attendance. The number of regular pioneers increased by 5.5 percent to 1,546,132. And the number of auxiliary pioneers increased by almost 94 percent, with 738,457 serving as auxiliary pioneers.
In many lands, our brothers cope with economic problems, social and political upheaval, war, persecution, and natural disasters. Nevertheless, of the 239 lands where we preach the good news, 58 lands reported all-time peaks in publishers. The Governing Body is thrilled to see this year’s worldwide report! As we continue to offer ourselves willingly, we trust that Jehovah will richly bless the worldwide preaching and disciple-making work.—Ps. 110:3; Matt. 24:14; 28:19, 20.
The complete 2023 worldwide report will be released on jw.org in January 2024.
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Reinstatement Procedure
by KerryKing inwhat else has changed?.
during the many years i have been df'd the org has printed a new bible, new song book, doctrinal changes, so has anything changed re reinstating someone?.
i'm contemplating the leap for family reasons but due to my job and young family commitments there is no way i would be able to attend every meeting for months on end.
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During the many years I have been df'd the org has printed a new Bible, new song book, doctrinal changes, so has anything changed re reinstating someone?
No, it has not changed.
Does zoom attendance count nowadays?? Or would I be expected to visit KH in every place I'm working in that week?
No, you are expected to be at the Kingdom Hall to show you are repentant. Its like saying sorry to your wife. You have to be there in front of her to get the forgiveness.
The oaths make one a dedicated and baptised person to Jehovah (not Jesus as the Bible states) and the WT society, by dfing they have effectively annulled the baptism oaths?
No, you don't need to get re-baptized. Baptism is like acquiring citizenship and disfellowshipping is like getting imprisoned for breaking the laws of the country. When you are released you don't apply for citizenship again.
Another question, if reinstatement is successful, is the person required to sign a new Publisher record card, or do they still have the old one and simply continue its use?
Depends on which country you are in and what data laws prevail. But in any case, a new card is always made when you are reinstated.
Reinstating request would be to a neighboring cong to the one where I was df'd as I live in their territory now.
The request needs to be sent to the congregation where you are attending the meetings. If the orginal committee is not far away, then they will come and conduct the reinstatement hearing, or else, a new committee in your current congregation will handle the matter and forward their recommendation to the original commitee.