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  Sanderson’s “Young People” convention talk

  by FFGhost in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so did anyone else have the misfortune of listening to sanderson’s talk corresponding to the saturday morning convention program?.

  full title is “young people - choose a path that leads to peace!”.

  the basic idea is, hey you teenagers, you ought to be pioneers, wt construction workers, and/or bethelites.. i tried to put myself back in time an embarrassing number of decades…if i were in this talk’s target audience, how would i respond?.

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  Drearyweather

  I don't think Sanderson is wrong. He is speaking out of experience.

  He himself started pioneering as a teenager, and look where is now.
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  Military Service Confusion

  by Sea Breeze in

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  2. beliefs

  can someone please call these three guys and tell them that the first gentile christian was an active duty roman military officer named cornelius.

  these guys have been locked up for 25 years!.

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  SB,

  The article that you provided gives situations where soldiers can disobey their superiors if the orders are unreasonable. - But how many soldiers get that opportunity to scrutinize their conscience while in the field?

  Also, isn't war fuelled by state propaganda? A Russian Christian soldier will mercilessly hit a shopping complex in Ukraine because he is convinced in his heart that Ukrainians are his enemies. I'm not sure if his Christian conscience will be in bearing for his actions.

  In India, many Christian soldiers were part of the contingent that participated in Operation Blue Star in 1984. However, many experts still believe that the operation was a political move by the local government, and was utterly unnecessary.

  In short, Doesn't a Christian soldier participate in war in a zest of patriotic fervor and the propaganda fed to him by the ruling party? I'm not sure if his Christian ideologies will come into play on the battlefield.
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  Anybody interested in Judah Ben Schroeder? Here's two links. See if you can find who Judah works for. The info is in the first link.

  by AndersonsInfo in

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  2. friends

  http://theworldnewsmedia.org/charlotte+schroeder+%28may+9,1920+to+june+19,+2013%29.

  and here's how judah looks as seen in a recent video - especially posted for those who knew judah over the years.

  closet factory testimonial from judah schroeder.

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  Drearyweather

  Judah and his wife Amber Lynn are currently in the US, but remotely working for legal team in India and are associated with an English congregation in my city. Amber works for India's Public Information Desk, while Judah serves in Legal. I can say hi to them tomorrow in the mid-week meeting (they join through zoom) if you guys want. Both are pretty high up the org.
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  Military Service Confusion

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  can someone please call these three guys and tell them that the first gentile christian was an active duty roman military officer named cornelius.

  these guys have been locked up for 25 years!.

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  Drearyweather

  People who kill the enemy in a military operation are not guilty of murder. God will sort out the details in due time.

  So a Christian soldier in Russia is justified to bomb a church in Ukraine?
  
  
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  Military Service Confusion

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  can someone please call these three guys and tell them that the first gentile christian was an active duty roman military officer named cornelius.

  these guys have been locked up for 25 years!.

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  Drearyweather

  The three JW's in the OP have already been released from prison in December 2020. Their recent photos also appeared in a JW broadcast program.

  https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/eritrea/Eritrea-Releases-28-Jehovahs-Witnesses-From-Prison/
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  Watchtower July 22 - JWs being interrogated need to muzzle their mouths

  by Listener in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower has printed a disturbing article about self control and gives this instruction to the r & f .

  self-control also allows us to remain silent when opposers try to trick us into revealing things that could endanger our brothers and sisters.

  this might occur when we are being interrogated by the police in a land where our work is banned or restricted.

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  Drearyweather

  "Opposers" do not always mean police authorities. This comment in the WT is more applicable to areas where religious fundamentalism runs rampant.

  A few years ago, in my neighboring congregation, 2 publishers were rounded up by a mob of 30 people while in the field. Under pressure, one of them ratted out the Coordinators name and address to the mob, which then went and trashed the poor elder and his teenage son. He still suffers from a fractured ear drum.

  Many JW's live in places where mob justice precedes police interrogations.

  This is just one of the many cases that happened in India. I believe this is true in many other countries as well.
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  Any in-house word on Ukrainian Witnesses form HQ?

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  has anyone heard any word on active witnesses inside the ukraine and what has been happening with them the last week or so?

  i checked the official org website but there was just the expected "fulfilling bible prophecy" stuff.

  perhaps someone here has bethel contacts who have leaked some info on what the gb is trying to do for these victims of putin's madness?.

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  Now the official JWdot-org webpage has some info. I wonder why it took them so long to provide it.

  The first update on Ukraine was posted on 3rd March.

  Jw.org is providing updates in a span of a few days:

  Update 1: March 3: https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/ukraine/Brotherly-Love-Prevails-Amid-Ongoing-Crisis-in-Ukraine/
  

  Update 2: March 8: https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/ukraine/UPDATE-Brotherly-Love-Prevails-Amid-Ongoing-Crisis-in-Ukraine/

  Update 3: March 11: https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/region/ukraine/UPDATE-Brotherly-Love-Prevails-Amid-Ongoing-Crisis-in-Ukraine-2/
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  Back to the Meetings. It's Offical!

  by pistolpete in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yep, the vacation is over, it's time to go to work------for free!

  😭😢😓😰😡.

  https://www.jw.org/en/news/jw/.

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  Our congregation received a detailed letter today to begin off-line meetings at the Kingdom Hall from April 1. A document A-261(?) has been provided giving instructions regarding conducting hybrid meetings. A thorough cleaning will be taking place tomorrow and each region has been assigned a branch rep will oversee the transition.

  Only those congregations will continue using zoom whose kingdom halls are under renovation, or who used to rent places for holding meetings and have left the place during the pandemic.
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  An upcoming Watchtower article saying if people Pioneer Jehovah will provide!

  by LongHairGal in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i saw the post on reddit and the thread got many responses..can anybody believe the religion is still saying this??

  it has to be as plain as day that so many jws are poor and struggling today because they never got a career or decent job years ago.. sadly, there are still witnesses who believe money will fall from heaven if they are in the full-time ministry.

  they expect some miracle to occur..but, we all know the truth: people in the congregation will be hit up for yet more money for another bunch of irresponsible people pursuing poverty.

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  Sadly, there are still Witnesses who believe money will fall from heaven if they are in the full-time ministry. They expect some miracle to occur..But, we all know the truth: people in the congregation will be hit up for yet more money for another bunch of irresponsible people pursuing poverty.

  The thing is that you will find such people in almost every religion. Such JW's would have been poor even if they weren't JW's.

  I strongly feel that sometimes hard work, financial sense, and future planning are never the forte of some people, and being a JW, non-JW, or Ex-Jw doesn't change that. The inherent characteristic of a person remains unchanged irrespective of whether he belongs to a cult or not.

  That's why you have congregations where you will have a mix of the super-rich and super poor elders, and super-rich and super poor pioneers, and the same with publishers too.
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  original reddit post (removed).

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  Lloyd made a lot of videos on Rutherford and his extra-marital affairs. In his videos, he mentioned that "while there is no cast-iron evidence that Rutherford really kept a mistress, rumors and suspicions of his marital unfaithfulness really question his credibility as a hero of JW's".

  So Lloyd makes videos and documentaries exposing other people's marriages, extra-affairs, and liquor buying habits, but at the time, believes that his own marital unfaithfulness is his private affair and shouldn't be exposed and condemned?

  To people sympathizing with Lloyd: Can't you really see the disconnect here?