Blondie that is just nonsense. That is like saying a government that employs the death penalty for depraved murderers is "not much different" from the criminals.
Posts by Perry
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44Israel ... Jehovah ... The Promised Land ... Genocide
by wannabefree inthis is a topic that i was always uncomfortable with, but, as a good indoctrinated jw got myself to accept the spin.
of course, now that i am out, when i speak with other "christian" friends, they make the same excuses.
god's ways are above our ways ... okay, sure ... but really???.
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Israel ... Jehovah ... The Promised Land ... Genocide
by wannabefree inthis is a topic that i was always uncomfortable with, but, as a good indoctrinated jw got myself to accept the spin.
of course, now that i am out, when i speak with other "christian" friends, they make the same excuses.
god's ways are above our ways ... okay, sure ... but really???.
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Perry
Shirley,
You are not consistent in your use of the word "God". Here's what the dictionary reads:
God
noun \ ˈ gäd also ˈ g ȯ d\
God : the perfect and all-powerful spirit or being
You have to make up your mind if you are going to accept the dictionary's definition or not, or just make up your own. If you make up your own, you cannot criticize the God of the bible, because they are different.... not the same. You are criticizing a different God.
On the other hand if you accept the dictionary's definition of the word God, then likewise you cannot criticize God because you acknowledge his perfection, which would include his perfect judgments, and his perfect right to display his mercies and judgments according to his purposes, not yours.
So, in his "all-knowingness" he does things to acheive the maximum amount of good under the circumstances, dealing with a race of men & women who really want nothing to do with him... even though they say otherwise at times.
Romans 8:7 - Because the carnal mind [is] enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Romans 7:18 - For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but [how] to perform that which is good I find not.All you are really saying is that you don't accept the God described in the dictionary. If he is perfect and you are not - how could you possibly be sure that you could tell the difference?
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Suckers
by WhoYourDaddy injw's are suckers.. they got fooled.. they devoted their life to a fraud.. they have been ambiently abused.. they have been used for the money.. they are stuck in a sick mindset.. with sick people.. in a sick temple.. and (the real estate fraud) makes money off the sickness.. i say run away fast.. get your family.. get your friends.. get your kids.. run as fast as you can.. don't look back.. eventually you will heal.. eventually..
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galaxie,
This has zero to do with science. I made a statement about what Jesus did for me. I had been on the run from this cult since I was 12 yrs. old when I knew they had lied to their members. I ran from their shame, I ran from my guilt for not being good enough, I ran from my family for not doing enough for the WT. I was constantly running from something - until Christ set me free from all that.
He declared me righteous by his blood. He took my shame - naked on that tree. He took my guilt in court that fateful day. He spilled his blood in place of mine for my sin. I carry the righteousness of Jesus as my very own. God loves me as his own son.
Now I don't fear JW's, I love them. I forgive them. I seek them out whenever I can to try and get them to examine & question the prospect of facing judgment after they die without a mediator to intercede.
I now watch as THEY flee from my questions and shrink back in fear at the prospect of judgment. Where I used to be a victum, I am now the victor. It is the JW's who should be running from every ex-member who finds out the truth about Christ that the Wt tries so dilignetly to hide. There is no reason to run from these victums, they need love.....sometimes tough love, but love nonetheless.
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Israel ... Jehovah ... The Promised Land ... Genocide
by wannabefree inthis is a topic that i was always uncomfortable with, but, as a good indoctrinated jw got myself to accept the spin.
of course, now that i am out, when i speak with other "christian" friends, they make the same excuses.
god's ways are above our ways ... okay, sure ... but really???.
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Perry
Was genocide against the inhabitants of the Promised Land a loving thing?
I guess it was a loving thing to the child victims of Molech, their fire god that they burned their children in.
Psalm 106:37-38 "They even sacrificed their sons and their daughters to the demons, and shed innocent blood, the blood of their sons and their daughters, whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan; and the land was polluted with the blood."
At least they had a god of sorts to blame this hideous practice on. Now people just abort their children in the name of selfishness.
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Suckers
by WhoYourDaddy injw's are suckers.. they got fooled.. they devoted their life to a fraud.. they have been ambiently abused.. they have been used for the money.. they are stuck in a sick mindset.. with sick people.. in a sick temple.. and (the real estate fraud) makes money off the sickness.. i say run away fast.. get your family.. get your friends.. get your kids.. run as fast as you can.. don't look back.. eventually you will heal.. eventually..
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Perry
And of course Cofty
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Perry
What a happifying experience!
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Suckers
by WhoYourDaddy injw's are suckers.. they got fooled.. they devoted their life to a fraud.. they have been ambiently abused.. they have been used for the money.. they are stuck in a sick mindset.. with sick people.. in a sick temple.. and (the real estate fraud) makes money off the sickness.. i say run away fast.. get your family.. get your friends.. get your kids.. run as fast as you can.. don't look back.. eventually you will heal.. eventually..
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Perry
When I accepted Jesus Christ as my savior from most of what you wrote, I was through running.
Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. Gal. 5:1
It is JW's who run from the light.
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3 1/2 - 7 Years in Jail....
by Lee Elder infor neglecting to provide medically necessary treatment.
jw parents need to understand.
this can happen to them.
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Perry
when would it be right to sacrifice your child in the name of anything?
This includes the abortion mills that sacrifice millions of children in the name of selfishnes. Murderers come in all shapes, sizes, and world views.
"Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" - Sounds so simple.
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How do JWs Not see how barbaric YHWH is? Its what started my awakening.
by BU2B inif one reads genesis from the first chapter through the end with an open mind, it is clear that not only is it not true, but that god is potrayed as a cruel, petty, childish micromanaging tyrant.
if one continues reading the ot this is just further solidified.
how do jws not see the obvious?
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Perry
God has a rule; the penalty of sin is death, but the gift God gives is LIFE....ABUNDANT LIFE. HE MADE HIS ONLY BEGOTTEN SON TO BE SIN...."FOR US".
All men die, it makes no real difference if God decides some should die a little sooner or later for that matter to suit his purposes. But what about babies some may say? Maybe God did them a favor by removing them before they sinned. One thing is for sure, when we sin God only owes us judgment.
why would the creator of all things insist upon the slaughter of animals
Maybe because "all flesh had become ruined" on earth? Genesis says that only Noah was "perfect in his generations". [Reference to DNA?]- Gen. 6:9 ASV, KJV
Genesis tells us that man was wicked and that every imagination of his heart was evil. This seems to imply that man imagined to corrupt the earth and all that lived on it - and he apparently did all that he imagined to do. Note that verses 11 and 12 say that the earth was also corrupt and that all flesh had corrupted his way. Man did that as a result of Watcher and Nephilim influence. Note what the Book of Jasher has to say about this:
And all the sons of men departed from the ways of the Lord in those days as they multiplied upon the face of the earth with sons and daughters, and they taught one another their evil practices and they continued sinning against the Lord. And every man made unto himself a god, and they robbed and plundered every man his neighbor as well as his relative, and they corrupted the earth, and the earth was filled with violence. And their judges and rulers [the Watchers] went to the daughters of men and took their wives by force from their husbands according to their choice, and the sons of men in those days took from the cattle of the earth, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the air, and taught the mixture of animals of one species with the other, in order therewith to provoke the Lord; and God saw the whole earth and it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted its ways upon earth, all men and all animals. And the Lord said, I will blot out man that I created from the face of the earth, yea from man to the birds of the air, together with cattle and beasts that are in the field for I repent that I made them.
And all men who walked in the ways of the Lord, died in those days, before the Lord brought the evil upon man which he had declared, for this was from the Lord, that they should not see the evil which the Lord spoke of concerning the sons of men.
And Noah found grace in the sight of the Lord, and the Lord chose him and his children to raise up seed from them upon the face of the whole earth.
- Jasher 4:16-21 [emphasis mine]
and in the Book of Enoch:
And all the others together with them took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go in unto them and to defile themselves with them, and they taught them charms and enchantments, and the cutting of roots, and made them acquainted with plants....And they began to sin against birds, and beasts, and reptiles, and fish, and to devour one another's flesh, and drink the blood. Then the earth laid accusation against the lawless ones."
The book of Jasher is not inspired but is a Jewish history book that is quoted three times in the bible. The Book of Enoch is likewise quoted in the bible.
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Now predicting increase of anointed?
by jgnat ini came across this nugget in the may 2014 issue:.
"are you moving ahead with jehovah's organization".
....at one time, the anointed remnant were like the little one, but their number grew as other spiritual israelites were brought into gods organization.
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Perry
Excellent research Bobcat.
The "other sheep" that Jesus casually mentioned when he spoke to the Jews was fairly quickly revealed shortly after Jesus left the earth. Of those, he said, "those also I must bring".
Paul, by the Holy Spirit, elaborated on this statement and revealed just EXACTLY who the "other sheep" were:
1 Cor. 12;13 - For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
NO WHERE in the New Testament is there a picture of anyone being saved from judgment by any other means EXCEPT by the New Covenant. ALL "drink into one spirit"; First offered to the Jew, and then to all Gentiles..... the "other sheep".