Posts by TOTH

Pams girl...I have been fading for a long time. My wife too, but since her family is such a controlling and judgmental bunch of jw's we are being pretty quiet. She is using her illnesses as much as she can to avoid meetings and service, but they tend to shun anyways. I am having a hard time keeping my mouth shut and really try not to mess things up for her. Just in a holding pattern for now.

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Was I Truly Baptized?

by TOTH in

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i have been running this through my head now and again for decades.

was i truly baptized as a jw?.

i ask because although i was dunked at a da in el paso, tx in 1981, i never prayerfully dedicated myself to anyone, including jah.

TOTH

Band on the run...No, I don't believe in hell. Except for the ones we willingly toss ourselves into by making dumb choices. I just feel weird about the whole thing.

N.drew...Thanks, I never looked at my action as having been bold. It was done mainly to ease the pressure from those maniac elders.

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convincing someone to live

by emanresu in

i was wondering if you could help me out.. tomorrow, i will be visiting a jw and i learned that she has anemia and has been given 4 months to live.

i really care for this person who i've only seen about 3 times.

on every visit i've made, she seems to be drunk (probably because of all the stress) and she has mentioned a couple of times that she "wants to die for god".

TOTH

A few months before my brother passed away, he was in the hospital dying. His blood count was very low and he NEEDED six units of blood to be able to survive. While he was never a strong jw, he was stubbornly hanging onto the blood doctrine. By not being a strong jw I mean that he was screwing with a MARRIED inactive jw woman while he was living with another woman and all the while had about 6 different women on a string.

Now I loved my brother and thought he was the luckiest guy on earth to be able to keep so many universes from colliding and ruining his sexual utopia. But he was NOT being a good jw. So when I got that phone call from a mutual friend that he was avoiding blood to keep the memory of our dearly departed father and grandfather alive, I stepped in.

I told him how when King Saul's men were starving they ate meat with the blood and fire and brimstone did not consume them. Samuel scolded them and declared them UNCLEAN and provided steps for them to redeem themselves. So eating blood is not a death sentence. My brother accepted the blood and pulled through. He was mostly terrified of losing me, my mom and sister....We ALL told him he could never lose us. WE ARE FAMILY afterall...

Sadly he did pass away the following September from other complicating conditions. But he died knowing we loved him no matter what.

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Was I Truly Baptized?

by TOTH in

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i have been running this through my head now and again for decades.

was i truly baptized as a jw?.

i ask because although i was dunked at a da in el paso, tx in 1981, i never prayerfully dedicated myself to anyone, including jah.

TOTH

I have been running this through my head now and again for decades. Was I truly baptized as a jw?

I ask because although I WAS dunked at a da in El Paso, TX in 1981, I never prayerfully dedicated myself to anyone, including Jah. I simply went through the motions, said yes to the questions and got dunked in the motel swimming pool while wearing an OPEC tee-shirt. I think it read Over Priced Energy Countries or something like that. LOL

I never truly felt connected to anyone but my Mom, Dad, Brother, and Sister. I got baptized so the elders would get off my folks' back and so they would then get off mine. Isn't that ridiculous?

Over the years I was pressured to go to service which I resisted. I was also supposedly being GROOMED to be a ms, but never remember reaching out for such a position. I am 6'2" and in my younger days weighed in at about 235 lbs so I was attendant and parking lot duty material. I enjoyed the parking lot so I "Reported" my obligatory 10 hrs in service and I did aux pioneer when work was slow so I could try to build a relationship with the org. But I only made a couple of nice service buddy's as friends for the duration.

I totally felt WEIRD.

Anyone else been through something like this?

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The Watchtower vs McDonald's

by TOTH in

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i got into a discussion with a fellow gamer on an online game server the other night and someone told him that he held a job at mcdonald's shoveling manure onto the griddles.

we had a big laugh but then i said not to be so insulting.

that anyone working for mcdonald's is the same as any jehovah's witness.

TOTH

Ding, they didn't elaborate. But I imagine it would have something to do with being roused from a sound sleep on a Saturday morning...

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The Watchtower vs McDonald's

by TOTH in

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i got into a discussion with a fellow gamer on an online game server the other night and someone told him that he held a job at mcdonald's shoveling manure onto the griddles.

we had a big laugh but then i said not to be so insulting.

that anyone working for mcdonald's is the same as any jehovah's witness.

TOTH

I got into a discussion with a fellow gamer on an online game server the other night and someone told him that he held a job at McDonald's shoveling manure onto the griddles. We had a big laugh but then I said not to be so insulting. That anyone working for McDonald's is the same as any Jehovah's Witness. They all spend a certain number of hours per month selling crap to people who don't know better than to buy it.

After that I had about five of the twenty or so players chime in on how much they hate jw's...Some from as far away as Taiwan and Poland.

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Problematic JWs

by Celestial in

did you ever have a problem with one of jehovah's witnesses?.

i always got along with everyone very well except for a couple of people.

this experience was partly my fault.

TOTH

I had some trouble with some elders and an elder wannabe. Never with any sisters because I refused to date ANY of them until I met my wife. One brother (Elder Wannabe) offered me a job cleaning Burger Kings in the wee hours and on New Years we had to go in and do like a Spring Cleaning on ALL of his accounts. FOR FREE! I went along with it out of being a good guy. Later on we had some jerk that left bethel to join our congregation because he fell in love with our pioneer when she went to visit bethel the spring before. Well after a month this doosh dumped her for her underaged (14 years I think) cousin. Well he married her and needed work so HALF of my Burger King cleaning jobs went to dooshy from bethel. When I bitched about THAT one elder wannabe gave him the rest of my work. FU**ASS!

Being that I was 19 and vengeful I took out my frustrations by driving by each of my old Burger Kings after he did his work and I took an oiler and squirted 90 wt gear oil on all the windows I could hit.....LOL I would go into the Burger Kings sometimes and order food and then squirt ketchup onto the baseboards. Hard areas to clean. I called in complaints about bad smells and other sanitation problems. Because bethel doosh never cleaned up the hard areas.

I finally did something worth remembering. Since elder wannabe had a Burger King account a few blocks from my house I walked over when I figured he would be there. He was mopping up the dining room and would peer out into the darkness like he felt someone was watching him. I was! LOL Well he backed into the kitchen and I sprang into action. I took my tire valve tool and let the air out of his driverside rear tire and walked away. But I then thought...Who carries TWO spares? So I did the front one too. Turns out bethel doosh was running behind because he had decided to screw too long and needed elder wannabe's help. But he was stuck on a Sunday moring with no way to help him. I got some dirty looks at the hall but he could prove none of it of course.

It turned out later that bethel doosh had been thrown out of bethel for massaging his nasty privates with his filthy hand. Then it became known that he slapped the hell out of his teen bride. Later on he got a job as an assistant mgr at a burger joint my sister worked at. He tried to push her around because he was a BROTHER. She told him to slap his wife all he wanted but to back off of her...LOL! If I remember correctly my sister quit on him during a busy shift...LOL

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Do you enjoy being the center of attention?

by Chemical Emotions in

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as someone with mild social anxiety, i don't.

but a lot of people i know seem to.. .

i'm sorry if this has already been asked!.

TOTH

I actually am a bit of a paradox here. In general I am very shy and hate teh spotlight. HOWEVER when i was younger I recorded lots of my cover songs and played on stage. So...Ummm A bit yes and a bit no.

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Doing my masters degree!

by avatar in

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f**k you, wt!!.

talk about an evil cult that will not even allow it's members to learn..

TOTH

Glad to hear it! Congrats to all who are "reaching out"...for higher education as oppsed to the circular reasoning and mind control of the wt cult.