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Jehovah's Witnesses Governing Body Annointed???
by mind blown inif the gb now admit their interpetations or writings (wt) is not spirit inspired ....(only admiting the early christians writings (bible was inspired)...how can they even believe they are of the annointed????
russel and friends believed they were of the annointed, and we know how their end time interpetation dates went......and later gb...."this generation" and 1914......1975...... interpetations ended.
watchtower: 23. march 1, 1979.
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Is the Bible obsessed with numbers, if so why ?
by mP inin another thread, i made the statement that the bible seems obsessed with numbers, particularly 7,12, and 40.. the perfect example is while it sometimes lists different tribes of israel names the count is always twelve.. http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/contra/tribes.html.
what were the twelve (or thirteen) tribes of israel?
genesis 49 numbers 1 numbers 13 deuteronomy 33 ezekiel 48 revelation 7 1 reuben reuben reuben reuben reuben reuben 2 simeon simeon simeon - simeon simeon 3 levi - - levi levi levi 4 judah judah judah judah judah judah 5 zebulun zebulun zebulun zebulun zebulun zebulon 6 issachar issachar issachar issachar issachar issachar 7 dan dan dan dan dan - 8 gad gad gad gad gad gad 9 asher asher asher asher asher aser 10 nephtali nephtali nephtali nephtali - nephthalim 11 joseph (children of) joseph joseph joseph joseph joseph 12 benjamin benjamin benjamin benjamin benjamin benjamin 13 - manasseh manasseh manasseh manasseh manasses .
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Since exiting the Witnesses have you Become More " Spiritual " ? - Not ........
by flipper in..... necessarily more religious, but more spiritual in a non-religious way ?
although being religious is one of the definitions os " spiritual " it encompasses much more in the webster's new world dictionary , under the word spiritual it's definition is : " 1. of the spirit or the soul as distinguished from the body or material matters 2. of, from, or concerned with the intellect ; intellectual 3. of or consisting of spirit ; not corporeal 4. characterized by the ascendancy of the spirit ; showing much refinement of thought and feeling 5. of religion or the church ; sacred, devotional, or ecclesiastical ; not lay or temporal 6. spiritualistic or supernatural .
quite a variety of definitions !
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If Jehovah's Witnesses Were Right...
by lilbluekitty inif they (or the governing body) were right: (fill in the blank).
- the bible (even their own) would have lies in it, which would mean the whole bible would be a lie.
- jesus' blood wouldn't really save anyone (so what would be the point of him dying for us).
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How Did You View The Elders?
by minimus ini know some who truly believed they were "gifts in men".
they needed their approval and wanted to be well spoken of by them.. i know some who can't stand elders and regard them as pests, always looking for some dirt on somebody.. i know some who liked maybe one or two but regarded the majority as unqualified.. how did you view the elders??
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Do you know JWs who have never been happy in the truth?
by truthseeker inhappiest people in the world?
consider my own family.
i have jw relatives who gave up everything, moved to where the need was greater and they have never been happy.. they've been constantly in poor health, suffered with depression and had feuds within their own jw family.
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if Google+ takes over from facebook how will the Watchtower react?
by slimboyfat init seems to me it's only a matter of time before google+ takes over from facebook as the most popular social network.. a few jws i know have invited me to their google+ circles, or whatever you call it, in the last few weeks.
maybe they are more relaxed about using this network because it has not been condemned at the meetings the same way facebook has.. it occurs to me that the watchtower might be less likely to actually name google+ as forbidden fruit purely because they are confused about the name (i'm a bit confused about the name) and it they start condemning google they might sound like they mean to stop people using the search engine and just sound a bit daft.. so is this a social network that jws can take part in with impunity?.
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V for Vendetta - another great movie for faders and ex-JWs
by RayPublisher injust re-watched it again recently...wow what a powerful film and really shows up totalitarianism, mind control, etc.
of course the great wachowski's (of matrix fame) made it, so what do you expect?.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chqi8m4ceey.
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Time for another Leonard Cohen thread
by finallysomepride inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrlk4vdy28q&feature=artist.