I once committed pornia on my baptism date of all days. Although it was an accidental touch of a covered breast whilst hugging a sister!
Thisismein1972
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Porneia !
by zeb infriends!
we haven't heard that word for some time!
it must be due for another round from the wt you know what you can and cant do in marriage.. incoming!.
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Still Contaminated After All These Years
by new boy inthe contaminantion of years of being a jehovah witness.. it's interesting to see in myself and in many others here how no matter how much we want it or wish it, we will never be able to erase all of the mental contamination.
in one way or another it will always be a part of us.. i've had many friends that have been out for many years say "well i can't do that it just wouldn't be right.
" yes they are still judging themselves and others.
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Thisismein1972
So am i, although it has only been two years for me. I'd like you to think of something here. Remember JWs saying you can leave Jehovah, (the organisation) however Jehovah never leaves you! When I was fully indoctrinated, I thought this to be Jehovah always trying to draw you back. Now I'm out, I see this as being more sinister.
The Watchtower are extremely good indoctrination, they know exactly what to use psychologicaly - ""If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it" Joseph Goebbels - The Watchtower are big on repetition for emphasis, see the correlation here?
In short, the Watchtower instilled in us some very powerful teachings, we were programmed to think differently from the world, we were told that the only shelter from the wicked world was being at meetings regularly, and of course, field service, we were told that if we did not do this, then Jehovah would be very angry with us. We could also be classed as blood guilty if we did not go in service. Imagine how powerful these words are.
There are so many things wrong with the teachings of the Watchtower. Instead of it being a spiritual paradise, it is more akin to spiritual abuse. We were abused mentally, That does not go away overnight.
I should mention I am now seeing a CBT therapist, I, like yourself have reached the limit. But do not ever give up. There was a video recently on how the Watchtower programs us, even when we have left. They install a self destruct button in us all. This can work in severel ways. It can manifest in us crawling back with our tales between our legs, which is their ultimate goal. As with any abusive relationship, the abuser will always use this against us. Or (sadly) as with many who have left and got lost in this perceived scary world we could end it all. Another win for the Watchtower. Or we can find our map and plot a way out, this may include many hours of therapy, but isn't this worth it.
The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.”– Mahatma Gandhi
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SCOTLAND: Livingston Kingdom Hall
by darkspilver ini think this deserves it's own thread, so as not to get mixed-up tl;dr - go to the bar charts at the end...picking up on jambon1's comments:.
the one in the op - livingston, was a merge to the newly built assembly hall in the same area.
i think three congs share that building now.. nice wee scoop up of the cash from the sale of livingston and whitburn.
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Thisismein1972
They used to use DG1 in Dumfries for our assembly days, then they built Livingston Assembly hall. I have only ever been there once, have to say, I was seriously underwhelmed by the building.
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1975 statements
by A Believer infrom jw org.
“six thousand years of human existence”.
in 1969 the watchtower magazine in czech began publishing a series of articles based on the book life everlasting—in freedom of the sons of god.
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OK who threw the stink bomb in here?
by Thisismein1972 income on a believer, everyone knows it was you so own up to it and teacher will not be cross!.
this is exactly what seems to be happening, a believer runs in drops the stink bomb and runs out again...only to pear around the door when he/she deems it safe to do so.
😅😅😅.
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Thisismein1972
He respectfully asks we do not link jwfacts or any youtube video that have links to the facts...However, it is OK for A Believer to push his beliefs on us? HUH? Am I missing something here...O wait, this is another indoctrination that is constantly beaten into ones brain.
JW's do not debate, as they have the troof, or rather, a monopoly on the troof.
On the subject of A Believer certain we are near the end, for 137 years now your religion has been saying it is near the end. That's right 137 years. Since then, we have witnessed (no pun intended) the advent of 24 hour rolling news, this news sensationalises current events to increase viewership, the events we see on the news do not necessarily reflect what is really happening. A Believer believes that Donald Trump will usher on the great tribulation, this was also said about Barack Obama, however, it is apparent his time in office is almost over and there has been absolutely no sign of the great tribulation. By the way, I want you to do something for me. Call it a little experiment. One day, go out on the street and tell others what you think, that Donald Trump is going to lead the world into the great tribulation, and the only survivors of this great tribulation will be 8.2 million, leaving 7 billion inhabitants as bird food, or as your governing body member once said, human hot dogs! See the rather puzzled and confused looks you will no doubt get, not to mention the pity some will feel for you, fearing that you may need psychiatric intervention.
See, the thing is, when JW's such as yourself go out to preach to others, you never tell them the dark side of your beliefs do you. You always fluff it up with, wouldn't this be nice, to have no war, no killing. All the while, you and 8.2 million active JW's cannot wait to see war raged and Innocent people killed, hence your comment " I will leave it to Jehovah to judge"
By the way, may I ask, where do you get this idea that we are all far to gone when we have used fact based evidence? Where is your fact based evidence. And I also asked, could you please provide us with this letter that you mentioned please? You made a statement about 1975, and you also said there was a letter to back this statement up, where is this letter?
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OK who threw the stink bomb in here?
by Thisismein1972 income on a believer, everyone knows it was you so own up to it and teacher will not be cross!.
this is exactly what seems to be happening, a believer runs in drops the stink bomb and runs out again...only to pear around the door when he/she deems it safe to do so.
😅😅😅.
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Thisismein1972
Come on A Believer, everyone knows it was you so own up to it and teacher will not be cross!
This is exactly what seems to be happening, A Believer runs in drops the stink bomb and runs out again...Only to pear around the door when he/she deems it safe to do so. 😅😅😅
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New KH being built near where I live
by A Believer inthere are two kingdom halls in two parts of the county i live in.
one is smaller and their are already about to begin work to replace with a new one.. just posting because i noticed posts saying their wasn't new khs being built.
and i learned this today from someone..
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Thisismein1972
A Believer We will be waiting for these pictures from a random copy paste that you will probably take of JW.borg. By the way, did you get the memo? The watchtower have halted the building of new KH. And this comes straight from the mouth of Samuel Turd...Sorry I meant Herd.
As has been said, be careful not to reveal your location, as a judicial committee will be formed on your behalf for going against your governing body, by commenting on here.
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New KH being built near where I live
by A Believer inthere are two kingdom halls in two parts of the county i live in.
one is smaller and their are already about to begin work to replace with a new one.. just posting because i noticed posts saying their wasn't new khs being built.
and i learned this today from someone..
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Thisismein1972
A Believer Yet again you use a logical fallacy. You learned this from "someone" could you please tell us who this someone is please? And as you are close by these supposed KH's Did you not notice this for yourself?
I cannot believe A Believer is so gullible to even think, he/she can actually get away with posting such things on here without evidence to back it up...I think A Believer is rather board today as he/she once celebrated Christmas, but is now forced not to.
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Digging for Spiritual Gems
by George One Time inweek starting december 26, 2016.
(isaiah 17:1) 17 the pronouncement against damascus: “look!
damascus removed from being a city, and she has become a heap, a decaying ruin.. .
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Thisismein1972
Yeah like killing boys for mocking a man with no hair..But not in any old way...No, God needed to use a bear to rip the boys limn by limn!
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1975 statements
by A Believer infrom jw org.
“six thousand years of human existence”.
in 1969 the watchtower magazine in czech began publishing a series of articles based on the book life everlasting—in freedom of the sons of god.
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Thisismein1972
"Inaccurate False 'Prophet' Claim Made Against Jehovah's Witnesses - Links to Accurate Information (Defend Jehovah's Witnesses)
(To those who are not Jehovah's Witnesses (JWs), please remember that if you are looking for the authoritative information about the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society's (WTBTS) Bible-based beliefs and practices, you should look to our OFFICIAL WEBSITE at http://www.jw.org/en. Numerous publications as well as the New World Translation Bible (NWT) and the very useful Watchtower Online Library can be found there.)"This statement alone can be picked apart by any free thinking person.
A Believer. Lets use an example here. When purchasing an item of value, do you first go to the manufacturer of the item to see the reviews and the sales pitch that is always positive? Or do you do a little research on this item. For instance, would you look for independent reviews, then maybe look for those who have purchased this item and left their unbiased reviews? Wouldn't this be more advantages so that your not acquiring a defective item?
Look on any religious organisations website and you will see only the positives. Why is this the case? Because they are, like any other corporation/organisation selling a product.
Another point to note. If this is indeed the truth, wouldn't this website be more transparent? Wouldn't there be news on the child abuse cases currently plaguing your organisation? After all, if this is indeed the truth, truth stands up over anything doesn't it?
Also, I was trying to find a link to this letter you were talking about, please could you provide a link to this letter? I read the blog post, but could not find this letter you talk about. And on the subject of Fred Franz and 1975, I think you might find this recording of the REAL talk given by Fred Franz.