regarding the watchtower interpretation of revelation 13 https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g201105/seventh-world-power-bible-history/ - identifying the usa and britain as part of the legs of iron from daniels vision... i think they're gonna have to update this one in the next decade.. trump seems to be the last person who'd work closely with a female prime minister for one, secondly, us brits aint so powerful as we once was.
trump appears to be pretty ok with dealing with russia and for all we know could become an ally with them.. your thoughts?.
now that i read the watchtower interpretation of revelation without my jw spectacles on, it's laughable that they come to these conclusions..
Britain and the US are the last superpower...Although there is room for a overlapping superpower in the shape of Russia and China! the Watchtower have managed to get away with the overlapping generation, so I'm sure with the ever rising power of Russia and China, and the inevitable fall of THE US and the UK as a superpower we will see something pulled out of the hat.
The worst thing about all this is, those who are indoctrinated will lap it up, and still think the end is near.
instead of making a new thread for every little thing related to memorial 2017, i'm going to try to post here.
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and to start us off.... cart artwork for 2017 memorial invitations.
Anyone with an ounce of common sense will see CULT shouting out to then loud and clear. The illustration is extremely cult like.
On the subject of the memorial. It is a black mass ritual, those who fall for the invitation are only headed for trouble. Either that, or they will be seriously creeped out by the whole thing. The latter would be of benefit.
please, let's discuss this subject without attacking one another.. it appears that trump has won a victory that no one expected.
is it possible that trump may play a part in the great tribulation?.
there are some who believe trump is one of the most unqualified of men to ever be elected president of the united states.
"How do you know that?"
@Fisherman. Did I say I knew this? and on the subject of Jesus saying he saw Satan falling from the heavens, could you point us to this scripture? Could you also point us to the scripture that points to this happening in the early 20th century? I'm sure if Jesus saw a vision of Satan falling from the heavens, then being the honest loving caring person he was, he would have actually pointed to a time frame, and not be vague... Surely this would be a loving thoughtful thing to do, instead of leaving others hanging. Which is the opposite of love, and just plain cruel!
please, let's discuss this subject without attacking one another.. it appears that trump has won a victory that no one expected.
is it possible that trump may play a part in the great tribulation?.
there are some who believe trump is one of the most unqualified of men to ever be elected president of the united states.
"I believe that the testimony the anointed give about the sign is true but I do not know if it is true for a fact because I was not there myself to measure it some way"
@Fisherman. You have just made a huge contradiction here. You need to re-read your submission, in one breath you are saying you believe, then in another you doubt whether this is true?
in my area i'd guess 30% of the men maybe more have some kind of beard.
this craps gotta wake up somebody still in!.
So in every single publication just about every first century "Christian" had beards, this includes Jesus. The watchtower proclaims to be a footstep follower of Jesus. So if anyone is "stumbled" by a brother wearing a beard, there is one simple explanation. I wear a beard because I am a footstep follower of Jesus, and point out the many publications that illustrates not only Jesus, but also his apostles wearing beards.
There is no argument to be had here, the watchtower cannot simply forbid beards if they do not follow by example. Besides, the only reason they try to forbid beard wearing is because they want their salespeople to look clean cut on the outside. Fortunately most people realise these days that this is a false presentation to try and recruit more slaves to the watchtower.
my mom has been extensively texting me, trying to argue that the un ngo scandal is not a big deal and that the child abuse scandal is to instigate the great tribulation.
even worse, she kept saying how great it is that the gb is imperfect and fallible and that teaching changes all the time.
maybe it was aggravation or impatience, but i finally just snapped and told her, "it's a cult, mom.".
I have a similar situation with my mum. However, to preserve the relationship with her, I need to let her have her belief. We know it is a high control cult, however, some people are heavily invested in this cult.
Although it is a loving and caring thing to try and warn a loved one that this cult is dangerous, this person needs to have doubts, you cannot simply "implant" these doubts into an individual, the mind control and years of indoctrination is far to strong.
Sadly, I don't think my mother will ever wake up, so me trying to wake her up will NEVER happen. Sometimes we have to learn acceptance and focus on the cult itself. What I mean by focusing on the cult is knowing that this is not the cult victim's fault, it is the cult that slowly manipulated the victim into total servitude.
please, let's discuss this subject without attacking one another.. it appears that trump has won a victory that no one expected.
is it possible that trump may play a part in the great tribulation?.
there are some who believe trump is one of the most unqualified of men to ever be elected president of the united states.
Fisherman. Where is the eyewitness evidence that Satan was cast down to earth? I'm not talking about 1914 and the outbreak of WW1, I'm talking about a clear phenomenon celestial in nature. Surely if Satan was cast down, there would be some sort of phenomenon that most on earth would have witnessed. After all, we are talking about very powerful beings here aren't we?
No one saw Satan being cast down, neither did anyone see Jesus invisible (old light) return, therefore, did this really happen, or was it made up? why did other religious dominations not see any of this happening, even to give them a warning?
i have argued with several jws who are now being trained to deny the org ever said the end in 75, what is your approach?.
I see you highlighted the one thing that you as an indoctrinated JW would think gives you that Gotcha moment Fisherman. This is a typical move made by a JW.
However, you seam to miss the point here. It was the watchtower, and not the JWs that put this thought into the minds of JWs at that time in history. Let me ask you this, was these articles created by just your average JW or was it from the Watchtower?
i have argued with several jws who are now being trained to deny the org ever said the end in 75, what is your approach?.
Maybe they should rename this site.
