peacefulpete
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Does This Case Show The Value of the 2 Witness Rule ?
by BluesBrother ini read this in the public area of jwtalk, about a canadian case concerning reena virk, over 20 years ago..
“manjit, her father, got arrested by the police due to reena's accusation of sexual abuse.
he lost his job, many of his friends and almost his family.
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Viruses Killed The Woolly Mammoths.
by LostintheFog1999 ini can remember the original turquoise coloured evolution book produced by the organisation and the numerous public talks around it.
mind-blowing to a gullible youngster growing up in a jw family.. the flood of noah's day when thousands of tons of suspended water fell from the atmosphere and on hitting the cold poles instantly plunged the woolly mammoths into a deep freeze, to the extent that the last mouthful of grass was still there in the mouth in mid-chomp.
you can quickly see why a kid with a fertile imagination was transfixed by those apparently up-to-date scientific discoveries as presented by the wt org!.
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peacefulpete
Doropoffkeylee, ...you said a mouthful. 10 minutes of googling can go a long way in understanding the state of the science on any topic. Mammuthus was a genus with quite a few varied species living over millions of years. The last species known was the woolly mammoth. It was largely extinct thousands of years before the mythological flood of Noah was supposed to take place. This includes the frozen specimens and tusks found on mainland Siberia. The few hold outs of pygmy mammoths on islands off Russia were wiped out by hunters and habitat loss. IOW there was no one reason for the disappearance of the genus, species died out millions of years ago to as recent as 4000 years ago. They went extinct for the same reason species do today. Climate change, competition, predation and disease.
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Is it Logical To Beleive In A Creator - GOD ? In This Scientific Age ?
by smiddy3 ini don`t think so .
hasn`t science ,astronomy ,time , .....proven it an illogical beleif ?.
with the information about this solar system and it`s planets ,other stars and their planets that we have information about ,and the fact that no god has ever revealed him/her self in any shape or form 'there is no evidence that a creator / god has ever existed.. except in the minds of humans who want to control a section of humanity .. the fact that religions rely on "you have to have faith" to beleive in a god ,surely is a cop out.. i look forward to your comments .. and a happy new year to you all..
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peacefulpete
As soon as you grant something might exist outside our understanding of time/energy/matter your timeline necessarily ends. Temporal debates about what existed 'before' that point are by definition wrong. Theoretical physics maintains a consistent nonmagical paradigm in postulating an as yet unknown, and likely fundamental, nontemporal explanation whereas theologians postulate a magical complex being (or beings) who just happens to act like us, look like us and love us. Who is behaving more logically?
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Is it Logical To Beleive In A Creator - GOD ? In This Scientific Age ?
by smiddy3 ini don`t think so .
hasn`t science ,astronomy ,time , .....proven it an illogical beleif ?.
with the information about this solar system and it`s planets ,other stars and their planets that we have information about ,and the fact that no god has ever revealed him/her self in any shape or form 'there is no evidence that a creator / god has ever existed.. except in the minds of humans who want to control a section of humanity .. the fact that religions rely on "you have to have faith" to beleive in a god ,surely is a cop out.. i look forward to your comments .. and a happy new year to you all..
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peacefulpete
To me it makes most sense to think that existence, and human consciousness, are the result of the intention of a supreme being who is outside of time and space.
To argue against the (highly speculative) scientific models of origins of space/time and matter/energy by asserting a complex deity with intention and will existing without existence in space/time matter/energy you are not just being speculative you are compounding that speculation with projections of a highly derivative Judeo/Christian conceptionualization that evolved some 13 billion years later. We know much about how religions evolved from simple animistic, totemic attempts to control the environment to more elaborate philosophical ones through millennia of human ingenuity and imagination.
IOW though we don't presently know, and may never know, exactly what mechanism spawned the spark of the physical universe (or even if that is a valid question), we do know what it couldn't have been. It's like supposing the military success of Assyrians to their having F16s.
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Happy New Year!
by Vanderhoven7 inmay 2023 bring you happiness health and love!.
what are you thinking will happen in 2023....positive or otherwise?.
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peacefulpete
Happy New Year! We're not done with Xmas yet. Doing it up tomorrow. Hey Armenians celebrate Haydnootiun on the 6th!
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New poll shows public knows Jehovah's Witnesses and dislike them....almost as much as the Church of Satan
by Balaamsass2 inwow.
while not a pew survey, i found these to be surprising results.
" a recent yougov poll explores americans' attitudes toward 35 religious groups, organizations, and belief systems.
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peacefulpete
dropooff....I'd be willing to bet my retirement fund that not one in 10 of those who responded could tell you anything meaningful about any religion other than the ones they belonged to. Then they still know almost nothing about their religion's past, policies, and doctrine. People tend to offer opinions even when they don't have one.
In my estimation 70% of Americans are functional Agnostics or Apatheists.
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I don't get it.
by LostintheFog1999 ini am a historian and the period of english history from henry vii to elizabeth i is my specialist area.. i was talking to an ex-jw about the time when tyndale first translated the bible into english with his intention that everyone from the ploughboy upwards would be able to read and understand the scriptures.
it dawned on us both that this was a significant point in english history.. just having access to the bible in hi their own language allowed the common man to understand what god wanted him to understand.. it was and is, so simple.. why then oh why then do jehovah's witnesses think that they need a fds to explain it to them?
when in the 1600s just having a bible written in english was enough for people to understand the word of god?.
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peacefulpete
To be fair the Bible is filled with examples of cryptic ambiguity. Mark has Jesus deliberately misleading listeners so that they don't get the message. Add to that the countless ways the messages are contradictory, and you see why most readers crave someone to tell them what to believe.
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Clever Misdirection
by TD ini was looking at the (mostly) wrong answers to a riddle that's making the rounds on social media and thought it was a good example of how something simple (in this case, grade school math) can be distorted with words.
the riddle goes like this:.
i bought a cow for $800.. i sold it for $1000.
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peacefulpete
That second example is the trickiest. The key is to take what the actual bill was (25) and add the tip (27 or 9x3). add the 3 she gave back =$30. The slippery part is the tip, it's actually included in the 27 and not a separate expense.
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listening to misinformation
by enoughisenough injw.org has a what's new....it's about misinformation...how you need to be careful.
the person i have sent some things too ask if i had watched it...i said i would.
i probably am ticking this person off a bit.
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peacefulpete
I plead ignorant of all that. I've been out a long time. I agree it isn't acceptable, but pretty true to form, for them to have reduced the issue to "do as you're told". They should have done their best to dispel concerns using information from reputable health authorities. I suppose it's just easier to play the FDS card.
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Just courius, some questions about the past
by Gorb incurious.
time goes by so fast.
who remembers 1975, the ray franz incident, the generation change in 1995, the blood fractions, alternative service, participation in ochr, aid afrique, the historical research by james pellechia, jolene chu and johannes stephan wrobel?
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peacefulpete
Just splitting hairs but the changing definitions of "generation" had another step prior to the overlapping weirdness. In the nineties they changed it to represent an era identified with certain characteristics or something similar. No one really got it or felt it was meaningful.