A small comment that I forgot to include was Mark's use of the title "King" for Herod Antipas. The writer betrays his unfamiliarity with the political situation by doing so. Herod the Great was titled King whereas when the Romans divided his Kingdom into 3 sections, his son Herod Antipas was merely a tetrarch not a King. Antipas craved the title "King" till eventually Caligula has him exiled for attempting to acquire it through manipulation. The Matthean redactor (followed by the author of Luke) corrected this mistake, correctly addressing him as Tetrarch.
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Fancy Dancer....JTB's Death
by peacefulpete init might surprise some to find that john the baptizer's (jtb) death is described a number of ways in the traditions of the gospels, josephus and the mandeans (jewish gnostic sect that followed jtb).
first g.mark says john was reluctantly killed soon after he baptizes jesus by "herod".
this herod is described mark 6:.
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Fancy Dancer....JTB's Death
by peacefulpete init might surprise some to find that john the baptizer's (jtb) death is described a number of ways in the traditions of the gospels, josephus and the mandeans (jewish gnostic sect that followed jtb).
first g.mark says john was reluctantly killed soon after he baptizes jesus by "herod".
this herod is described mark 6:.
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Hopefully it was understood I meant first husband of herodias not wife.
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Fancy Dancer....JTB's Death
by peacefulpete init might surprise some to find that john the baptizer's (jtb) death is described a number of ways in the traditions of the gospels, josephus and the mandeans (jewish gnostic sect that followed jtb).
first g.mark says john was reluctantly killed soon after he baptizes jesus by "herod".
this herod is described mark 6:.
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Fancy Dancer....JTB's Death
by peacefulpete init might surprise some to find that john the baptizer's (jtb) death is described a number of ways in the traditions of the gospels, josephus and the mandeans (jewish gnostic sect that followed jtb).
first g.mark says john was reluctantly killed soon after he baptizes jesus by "herod".
this herod is described mark 6:.
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The traditional name Salome in the story, (though unnamed in all the Gospels) described as a very young girl in the Greek. Also poses a problem. Salome known to history was the daughter of Herodias and Herod II.
As Josephus reports in Jewish Antiquities (Book XVIII, Chapter 5, 4):
Herodias [...] was married to Herod,[b] the son of Herod the Great, who was born of Mariamne, the daughter of Simon the high priest, who had a daughter, Salome; after whose birth Herodias took upon her to confound the laws of our country, and divorced herself from her husband while he was alive, and was married to Herod, her husband's brother by the father's side, he was tetrarch of Galilee; but her daughter Salome was married to Philip,[c] the son of Herod, and tetrarch of Trachonitis; and as he died childless, Aristobulus,[d] the son of Herod,[e] the brother of Agrippa, married her; they had three sons, Herod, Agrippa, and Aristobulus;[11]
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Fancy Dancer....JTB's Death
by peacefulpete init might surprise some to find that john the baptizer's (jtb) death is described a number of ways in the traditions of the gospels, josephus and the mandeans (jewish gnostic sect that followed jtb).
first g.mark says john was reluctantly killed soon after he baptizes jesus by "herod".
this herod is described mark 6:.
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I briefly mentioned the manuscript variants regarding the name of the first wife of Herodias in Matthew. Likely this was an editor's attempt to sort the story out. Phillip the Tetrarch was never titled "Herod". The "Herod" whose wife Herod Antipas took was apparently Herod II.
There is no contemporary evidence for Philip the Tetrarch's use of the name "Herod Philip" (Greek: Ἡρώδης Φίλιππος, Hērōdēs Philippos) as a dynastic title, as did occur with his brothers Herod Antipas and Herod Archelaus. Herod II is sometimes called "Herod Philip I" (because both the Gospel of Matthew[4] and Gospel of Mark[5] call the husband of Herodias "Philip"), and then Philip the Tetrarch is called "Herod Philip II".[6][7] Kokkinos says, "The stubborn insistence of many theologians in referring to Herod III as 'Herod Philip' is without any value...No illusory Herod Philip ever existed."[7][pp. 223–233]; [266] Philip the Tetrarch, "unlike his brothers, did not use Herod as a dynastic name."[8] Philip's half-brothers, Archelaus and Antipas, had adopted the name of Herod, "presumably" for a dynastic claim from Herod the Great.[9
Herod II was the first husband of Herodias, and because both the Gospel of Matthew[3] and Gospel of Mark[4] state that Herodias was married to Philip, some scholars have argued that his name was actually Herod Philip. Because he was the grandson of the high priest Simon Boethus he is sometimes described as Herod Boethus, but there is no evidence he was actually thus called.[5] -
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Hip replacement on Monday. Wish me luck.
by GrreatTeacher inas the title says i'm having a total hip replacement on monday.
the pain has grown over the years and now i'm using a cane to walk.
after steroid injections and physical therapy, it was decided that a total hip replacement is appropriate.
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Neighbor lady had it done 3 years ago, she just came back from bowling competition. So, I guess it was a good choice.
They often say the results are up to the patient's determination and willingness to do the post-op therapy. So, just do it. Good luck.
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Anti-gravity in the new world!
by BoogerMan infrom golden age, march 24, 1926. https://jws-library.one/?file=data/1926/g_e_19260324/g_e_19260324.html#bookmark22.
"many have wondered how accidents would be avoided during christ’s kingdom, since we are told that nothing shall then hurt or destroy.
most accidents are due to gravitation and its effects.
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That's a great find. It was elsewhere postulated that angels would be babysitters for each of us, intervening whenever we tripped on a tree root or wind knocked a branch down. It struck me as rather humorous, would it have been better to make a human that was durable?
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I hate the way they talk.
by Riley inwhat is with the jw cadence when they speak.
do they think they are teaching people ?
they sound like pro wrestlers doing promos or shakespearean actors.
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You mean the mechanical, canned responses they present instead of genuine thoughts, opinions & emotions?
I think that is the sum of it. The sound of (in)sincerity - ScienceDirect
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Nobody else understands
by ElderBerry inif you once were fully pimi and truly believed jw doctrine to the core like i once did, when you come to the reality that it is not the truth at all it can be extremely devastating.. i think only other ex jws could ever understand.
i wasted my entire life i thought the real life was yet to come to wasted the best years knocking on doors.
now i’m so angry.. i can understand why so many top themselves when they realise it was all lies..
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peacefulpete
Healthful choices. Fact is, most everyone wants to have a successful family and get along peacefully with others.
The fly in the ointment with religions like JWs is the measure and method of control. The use of shaming and shunning destroys happiness every bit as much as the supposed destructive lifestyle they wish to control.
Of course, we also have issues relating to the psychology of apocalypticism and isolation.
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List of main points from 2023 AGM
by ExBethelitenowPIMA in1. doctrinal changes how new light comes about.
the gb raise questions then talk about it, unless it’s unanimous they wait, then years later talk again if it’s unanimous it then gets announced as new light.. 2. the gb are imperfect and sometimes make mistakes.
they are not to apologise or even admit they were wrong.
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BTW....when did they change from 2/3rds vote to unanimous for doctrinal changes? Or do I have that wrong?