Posts by peacefulpete

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C.T. Russell, Occultist

by metatron in

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friends

one aspect of the watchtower's history that has never been.

adequately explained is russell's fascination with the occult.. the end of the 19th century saw the prominence of many occult.

were obsessed with egyptian symbols and magick based on the.

peacefulpete

vienne, American Adventism represented a push-back, a counter movement to the industrial age with science and reason elevated to new levels, with individualism hailed as superior to conformity.

IOW, overt mystical claims might be culturally less palatable, but the leaders must project divine providence and protection that convinces individuals to conform. It's a balancing act that results in cognitive dissonance among members when asked if their leadership is 'inspired'. Well, yes and no, they might want to reply.

The WT is a product of our culture and times as all successful religions are.

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The Strange Case of Jim and Sandra Melgar

by Terry in

jw
friends

by the time you reach the nine minute and forty one second mark you will know why i posted this.this may be old news to you - but i just discovered it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74s7jg1fdf4&t=582s.

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peacefulpete

An update 10 years after the murder, her daughter claims they found a man's DNA on the safe. That sounds like grasping at straws. The handle of the locked safe had the husband's blood, (smeared so no fingerprints). Unsurprisingly, no DNA testing of the rest of the safe was done at the time. Now 10 years later the daughter apparently hired someone to search the safe for DNA and claims to have found an unknown male's DNA. I hate to point out the obvious but its likely a cop's DNA or even a past owner, salesperson etc.

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The Strange Case of Jim and Sandra Melgar

by Terry in

jw
friends

by the time you reach the nine minute and forty one second mark you will know why i posted this.this may be old news to you - but i just discovered it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74s7jg1fdf4&t=582s.

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peacefulpete

We simply don't have all the facts, however, the most suspicious element is his being tied and placed in the closet after his death. The staged appearance of the scene. Drawers opened but not rifled through etc. Bag of stuff dropped in the garage. His handgun was found in the very closet his body was found. The chair propped to appear to be locked in, pillow sham in the closet, the silly way she was found "tied" up. The "I must have had a seizure" and I heard nothing statements from her are pretty questionable.

I think they got the right person.

Apart from the murder, the handgun, the sex toys, and the joining his family for Christmas dinner, even bringing eggnog are kind of strange from a JW standpoint.

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Revelation 13 and 17 Beasts

by Duran in

revelation 17:8-11,12-14. revelation 13:3,5,7,8,10;11:2,3. revelation 13:11-17;19:19,20,21. revelation 15:2;20:4. what beast does it state that gets thrown into the fiery lake with the false prophet?

what beast gets the 42-month authority given to it in which time the motb is given out?.

what beast is the 8th king?.

peacefulpete

Revelation 20 Question - Nark, Leolaia, Alan, Blondie, Drew, Others.

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Manners and Respectfulness

by IWant2Know in

i would like to know if there are any ex's or formers who still appreciate good manners and respectfulness?

but i hope this question isn't offensive to this forum.

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peacefulpete

Politeness....pass it on. About Us - Pass It On - Inspirational Quotes | The Foundation for a Better Life

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Covid Vx likened to Jesus ransom

by KerryKing in

this morning i decided to log into the local cong meeting on zoom, during the public talk the speaker likened the covid vx to jesus ransom sacrifice, saying that those who didn't avail of the vx, the 'anti vaxxers', are just like people who refuse to put faith in jesus.. i felt sick, knowing my unvxed but active jw parents were sitting there, i logged off immediately.

surely such talk is pure blasphemy or am i just over reacting?!.

i appreciate your thoughts, it will hopefully help me to approach my jw family with facts and logic, i'm praying they wake up fully and 'get out of her', i know they have reservations that's why they refused the vx..

peacefulpete

The WT surprisingly admonished following the guidance of the consensus medical profession for the benefit of all. Unsurprisingly, they used cultish language and coercion to accomplish that. I couldn't suffer through that whole video but in the parts I did hear, they repeatedly called the choice to vaccinate a personal one. Yes, I know how that works in a cultlike setting. Fact is they did listen to the best medical advice available and endorsed that, rather than imagine they had some special insight from God on the matter.

If they had been a mail or TV based ministry, they may not have been so vigorous, who knows??

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Why Jehovah's Witnesses leave the Organisation

by Vanderhoven7 in

i like this guy's analysis .

https://youtu.be/vzkjbnjh5nu?si=ug_ahnird6ygsm41.

peacefulpete

Nice video. It's always interesting to hear someone come to the same conclusions but from a slightly different angle.

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Covid Vx likened to Jesus ransom

by KerryKing in

this morning i decided to log into the local cong meeting on zoom, during the public talk the speaker likened the covid vx to jesus ransom sacrifice, saying that those who didn't avail of the vx, the 'anti vaxxers', are just like people who refuse to put faith in jesus.. i felt sick, knowing my unvxed but active jw parents were sitting there, i logged off immediately.

surely such talk is pure blasphemy or am i just over reacting?!.

i appreciate your thoughts, it will hopefully help me to approach my jw family with facts and logic, i'm praying they wake up fully and 'get out of her', i know they have reservations that's why they refused the vx..

peacefulpete

How, ironic that as the WT slowly evolves toward a mainstream church with an eye to acting responsibly toward its members, some have found in this progress, a cause for complaint. The church's effort for acceptance in Europe and elsewhere have resulted in positive change. Less isolation, less unnecessary loss of life and liberty. Pointing out that there is still much room for improvement can be done without becoming alike the fringe science proponents and distorters of fact that shaped and identified the church we left.

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Ken and Barbie

by peacefulpete in

forgive the insensitivity of this but does the wt imagine the "resurrected" bodies of the dead will have useless genitalia?

or will the humans 2.0 have the smooth appearance of a ken doll or the nipple-less breasts of a barbie.

any breasts at all?

peacefulpete

The official teaching is that the "resurrected" dead people will "not be married" (be sexual beings) but rather be "like the angels in heaven". Yes, that likely was meant to mean they would be spirits, but the WT interprets it to mean formerly sexual humans would be recreated to life on earth without the desire or ability to reproduce. I've been out for 20+ years so unless something changed, that is the teaching.

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Ken and Barbie

by peacefulpete in

forgive the insensitivity of this but does the wt imagine the "resurrected" bodies of the dead will have useless genitalia?

or will the humans 2.0 have the smooth appearance of a ken doll or the nipple-less breasts of a barbie.

any breasts at all?

peacefulpete

The "new system" grows less attractive all the time. lol.