Recent grandparent funeral. We had a pleasant dinner with nonJW family before the funeral and skipped the JW service. Other EXJW family went and were dealt with unkindly. They were told to their face they were not welcome, they were seated in the back row not with family, and told to leave as soon as the talk was done. I'm glad we skipped it. Who needs that kind of emotional abuse.
peacefulpete
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What are the Society's rules when confronting a disfellowshipped person at a funeral service?
by RULES & REGULATIONS inwhat are the society's rules when confronting a disfellowshipped person at a funeral service?.
are there specific rules or watchtower articles that must be followed?.
i have been to three different wakes/funerals where a disfellowshipped person attended with different results.. 1. ten years ago my first cousin passed away.
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Steve Hassan - politics as a cult
by Anna Marina insee this video at 2:58. sanity4sweden explains that 'cult expert' steve hassan was on cnn giving advice on how to deprogram trump supporters.. https://www.bitchute.com/video/3plguubdsjs/.
so this must be political correctness on steroids.. i have occasionally heard the name steve hassan mentioned in relation to the watchtower.
but even watchtower helps people to escape cults.
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peacefulpete
Lets not do this folks. We all know politics right now are a powder keg. Its time to make bridges and be calming influences.
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JWs Were Right About Something
by minimus inthey used to say the world governments would turn on religion.
i think this part is coming true.
however they also said since jehovah’s witnesses were going to be the only religion left the governments were going to focus on the “eyeball”of jehovah, his people.
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peacefulpete
The current narrative within the religious elements of the far right is parallel to the JWs in claiming victimhood from oppressive governments. Both are spawned from paranoia and a need to justify hostility toward outsiders. Playing the victim is also a powerful emotional tool to cement sectarian/political bonds.
REALITY: There is greater religious freedom now than ever before. More laws protecting freedom of religion, more legal precedent more public tolerance. Religion in many quarters is losing its influence due to greater freedom of information and individualism. The anti-Christian narrative within the political right is just as baseless as the JW's. What has been pointed to as governmental antipathy to religion is often actually an appropriate rejection of intolerance and bigotry by religious people in the workplace or public employment.
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I have read and re read acts chap.15 and for the life of me I can't find the part about the 1st century governing body!
by nowwhat? ini cannot find the verse where it talks about several self appointed men that went behind closed doors to render their decision regarding circumcision.
all i see is that it was the apostles, older men and the congregation that came to a decision.
perfect example of why we need the governing body today.
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peacefulpete
Acts was written (or extensively edited) precisely to create an origin story for an organized Orthodoxy. It brings together the dominant characters and has them all collaborating. A central authoritative decision is made to be distributed to all. This revisioning of Christian origins has colored early Christian research till fairly recently.
What has been said frequently on this forum is the 'decision' to 'abstain from blood' was arrived at not as a perennial Christian necessity but as a compromise to Jewish Christians and potential converts. This is made very clear in verse 21.
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Wishing the Gov.Body Members Contact Covid Virus.
by smiddy3 ini don`t wish them any real harm or death or anything ,but i feel that if a few of them contracted the virus it might wake a few more up that their is no god to protect them from what is happening in the world.. after all they are living in a hot spot aren`t they ?.
am i wrong in wishing this to befall some of them ?
as a wake up call ?
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peacefulpete
There is a LOT of misinformation about mRNA. It is not genetic material from another person.
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Mt 10:18 / JWdom
by Magnum inmt 10:18 (nwt):.
and you will be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a witness to them and the nations.. how has this worked out for jwdom?
i always got the impression that jws would be brought before governments and would give some kind of grand, impressive witness.
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peacefulpete
The section has had repeated redaction. As someone noted vs 18 is dependent on Mark 13 and doesn't actually make sense in the context of Matt 10's commission to preach to Jews only. Some later editor inserted it here rather than where it likely belong in chapter 28.
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The bird that had options to leave, but chose to be mentally enslaved
by RULES & REGULATIONS inthe watchtower—study edition | august 1, 2001. make your advancement manifest.
8 first, since “oneness” is to be observed, a mature christian must be in unity and full harmony with fellow believers as far as faith and knowledge are concerned.
he does not advocate or insist on personal opinions or harbor private ideas when it comes to bible understanding.
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peacefulpete
The JWs and many other high control groups like them boast about harmony and unity. Unity of thought, however, is not natural and is possible only with unethical methods of coercion. While cooperation and collaboration are essential for a society to function, the strength of any collaboration lies in the individual's contribution.
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Hip Replacement Surgery
by titch ini'm not really sure where to put this post or "thread", so i'll just put it in the physical activities area.
i just want to know if anyone on the forum has any experience with having a hip replacement surgery done on them, or perhaps a friend or relative.
what was your experience, if it was you?
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peacefulpete
He made it through the surgery today, thanks
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Hip Replacement Surgery
by titch ini'm not really sure where to put this post or "thread", so i'll just put it in the physical activities area.
i just want to know if anyone on the forum has any experience with having a hip replacement surgery done on them, or perhaps a friend or relative.
what was your experience, if it was you?
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peacefulpete
Dad just fell in a gas station restroom Monday. He broke the femoral head right off. Looking at replacement surgery Thursday. When you get to be his age and health its not an easy recovery. My advice is if given a choice, get it done when you can enjoy life.
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Goodbye yhwh-Goodbye jesus
by fulltimestudent ininteresting report in a oxford university blog - the world is becoming less religious, (hurray!!!).
quote: "an analysis of religious trends from 1981 to 2007 in 49 countries containing 60% of the world’s population did not find a global resurgence of religion—most high-income countries were becoming less religious—however, it did show that in 33 of the 49 countries studied, people had become more religious (norris and inglehart, 2011).
but since 2007, things have changed with surprising speed.
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peacefulpete
I know this thread has died but just found an interesting bit regarding whether a potential human (embryo) is necessarily equated to a human. Rabbis Abaye and Rav Hisda made this comment in the Talmud:
Rav Ḥisda said: She immerses and partakes of teruma only until forty days after her husband’s death, when there is still no reason for concern, as if she is not pregnant then she is not pregnant. And if she is pregnant, until forty days from conception the fetus is merely water. It is not yet considered a living being, and therefore it does not disqualify its mother from partaking of teruma.