I like most posts, there's such a variety. I think I especially like the posts from those that are still 'stuckin' as I feel a kind of kinship I guess. Being helped over what to say and what not to say, how and when to say it. How to fade successfully. How to wake up family and friends successfully. Also the 'leaks' of info. Those who are courageous enough to do it and pass it on. It helps me keep a step ahead and know what's coming up and what to expect!
tornapart
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What Are The Best Threads Here On JWN?
by minimus inare there any type of threads that you especially enjoy?
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are there any specific threads or posters that you look out for?.
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All appointed men are being told they have to pioneer now!
by stuckinarut2 inyes, you read correctly..... all appointed men have been told in a new letter that they have to pioneer to "set the lead" whenever there is a "special" campaign month.
they use some scripture saying that these ones have to show by example.... so for any of us who are appointed and have learned ttatt, it is going to be very hard to fade during this time!.
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tornapart
Won't believe it until I see the letter.
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The Demons love the Watchtower !!
by AndDontCallMeShirley in"i was very nearly trapped beyond hope of regaining freedom, in one.
of satan's most successful devices, viz., spiritism.
i was induced.
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tornapart
'Pastor' Russel died on halloween night on a train. As he he was dying, he asked to be wrapped in a Roman Toga.
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Letter to BOE: Adjustment in process for appointing elders and ministerial servants
by pixel inhello, you read it here first!.
governing body of jehovah's witnesses.
to all congregations.
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tornapart
@ 88JM... I'm not sure whether he does or not. I've seen elder letters in his hand at the meeting and seen him putting them in his bag, so maybe he does.
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Letter to BOE: Adjustment in process for appointing elders and ministerial servants
by pixel inhello, you read it here first!.
governing body of jehovah's witnesses.
to all congregations.
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tornapart
Pixel.. thanks! I love to see these letters. I know my elder hubby has these in his bag and I could read them anytime I felt like it but I hate to be a 'snoop' and would never invade someonelse's privacy. This way I know exactly what he's got in his bag without looking in it! :D
I can't see it's going to make a load of difference really. If the elders still make the recommendation to the CO, it just cuts out him having to send the recommendations to the branch and for them to get the 'rubber stamp'. It always seemed to be a nonsense sending it off to the branch and the GB just for them to say 'ok', when they don't even know the brothers concerned.
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Serious subject - How to cut your alcohol consumption?
by quellycatface in.
how can i cut down without going teetotal?
i love the taste of wine, i'm not fussed with other drinks but just need to rein in it a bit.. going wine-free tonight and tomorrow, as i'm out socially.. i also need to shift a few pounds.. thank you, everyone..
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tornapart
Same problem for me quelly. I've tried replacing it with cranberry juice or making some fruit smoothies and just allowing myself something alcoholic a couple of times a week. Sometimes I find myself slipping (like now LOL) but I give it another go. Slip back, try again... just keep trying!
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WOW gotta check out this Charles Sinutko talk "Is It Proper to have doubts?"
by BU2B inso manipulaitve.
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http://www.printcentralandsigns.com/jwtalks/covisits/sinutko%20charles%20-%20is%20it%20proper%20to%20have%20doubts.mp3.
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tornapart
Got to the bit where he pulls out old Watchtowers to show they never called themselves a prophet. Shame he missed the Apr 1 1972 WT. about 'Identifying the Prophet'!
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Any Suggestions on what to say if elders ask why you stopped going in FS?
by BU2B ini was curious what might be some good things to say if i am questioned by the elduurs about my decline in fs.
anything too honest may get me a jc (although that would be for the best in the end..) the co visit is this week so they may be getting more agressive than usual.
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tornapart
I only do an hour a month, just so I don't get put on the 'inactive' list. Apparently there's a big push (from the GB) to chase up inactive ones. (This I heard from my elder hubby's own lips after a meeting with the CO. I know as an elder's wife I am going to be in the sights of the CO which is making me nervous.
I've thought about this question a lot and have thought all I need to say if asked why I'm doing so little is just, 'I have my reasons but would like to keep it to myself, if you don't mind'. I think the trick is to be firm and assertive without being rude. It works well in theory... I have yet to put it into practice!
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A farce elder here
by His Excellency injust to share a little about me:.
i was recently appointed an elder, about 6 months ago now, and that is exactly two years after my awakenning, but funny that the appointment came also about 2 years after i had completely lost all faith in god and had been leading a full time anti-jw life .
makes you wonder the role of the holy spirit in the entire nomination or appointment process.. .
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tornapart
Is this for real? Just take the word 'elder' out of the title...
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Past couple years of being awake might be catching up with me
by noonehome ini was a little too honest with a super close friend who is one of the most important people in my life.
my mistake.
she talked to an elder about my doubts...i know she had my best interests in mind and i hold nothing against her.
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tornapart
Feel for you!! I understand your dilemma. I'm married to a JW (elder) have JW children (grown and married) a JW parent, JW sibling. JW friends. Too old to make new friends. Friends I've got are lifetime friends.
However, I'm lucky that I haven't been 'dobbed' in by those friends and relatives and they respect my views. However I have been very careful what I say and have let it all build slowly by planting little seeds of doubt here and there. I made a mistake with my mother in the early days and 'spilled' too much. Then had to try and backtrack. Since then I've taken it extremely slowly and not said anything to raise the red flags even when it's burned inside to say something.
I think you need to ask yourself how much power you are going to allow the elders to have over you. Why should they dictate to you what you should do? Have you done something wrong? No! If you choose not to go to meetings, not to go on FS etc, that's YOUR CHOICE and they can't make you. If you don't want to study those booklets then DON'T. They have no rights over you. Take back the control over your own life. Say you are grateful for their concern but you want to do things your own way. Then, if you know you can't trust your friend not to say anything again then zip your mouth up next time!! It's hard to do, but if you want to stay for family and friends that you love, it's a must!!