Posts by tornapart

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Need Advice On Shunning My Dying Dad, Please Advise!

by AuntConnie in

dear jwn,.

when i was out in field service yesterday i was approached by some sisters asking me how my dying dad was doing.

i said "i try not to visit him, you will have to ask him yourself.

Chemical warfare in Syria-can man be saved?

by Monsieur in

the images on the news after the town in damascus was attached with a chemical weapon was incredibly disturbing.

babies dying, people suffocating, it was man at his worst.. can man be saved?

it seems the entire world is implicated in this conflict.

I was really upset by it, it was extremely distressing to see. However I believe that for every person that causes harm to others there are a hundred more who show kindness and caring. I really think that it outweighs all the terrible things shown in the news.

How about smething heartwarming like this for instance?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPJAHxEssHA

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Where In the Bible Does It Say To Hate People Who Leave The Organization? Apostates and the District Convention Theme of Hating Them!

by AuntConnie in

i am back from bakersfield and i can say it was the best district convention ever!

the end is coming soon, a few of the annointed were speaking about 2014 possibly being the year that jehovah would destroy all the hateful apostates!

the focus of this convention was not on love or the message of the good news of the kingdom.

tornapart

Brilliant! Love your ascerbic wit Aunt Connie... (Just glad you're not in my congregation though...)

The description given at our convention of apostates was of a 'vile' half eaten mouse that his cat dropped at his feet on his kitchen floor.... nice.

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Danger Witness Robinson! Danger!!!

by Marvin Shilmer in

jw
friends

danger witness robinson!

danger!!!

today i added a new article to my blog highlighting the danger of power consolidation along with an overt attempt to ready millions for obeying irrational direction from this power.

tornapart

If they do come out with something irrational it may make a lot of sleeping dubs wake up.

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Excuse needed to get out of talk

by noonehome in

jw
friends

i work with the school overseer so he'll be with me all day before the meeting...so being 'sick' isn't an option.

this really isn't like me to weasel my way out of something....but i've been ridiculously depressed lately and honestly i just don't have it in me to do anything let alone put a talk together.

everytime i do one it takes allot out of me and let's just say the well is pretty dry.

tornapart

I told my school overseer that I didn't feel able to do the talk, I was having increasing anxiety over them, handed him the talk slip back that he'd just given me and asked if if he'd take me off the school. He looked surprised but took it and accepted what I said and I've never been bothered since. Just be upfront and straight. You don't want to do it and that's it.

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Last night the one cool elder calls me

by confusedandalone in

i figured he was going to arrange the committee and try to get me kicked out after the whole "big pile of books" labelled "take this shit".. well his call made me realize that more and more people ... elders included no longer take this religion seriously.

after he told me he heard what happened he actually laughed and said i would never expect that.

he then told me that it is apparent that i no longer want to be connected to the organization.

tornapart

I have friends that I continue to be amazed over by what they say and do. Friends I thought loved being 'in'. It seems that they are all getting tired of it all.

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Revelation Climax book - what are the most ridiculous claims in it?

by RayPublisher in

i got to thinking about all the strange interpretations in the old revelation climax book now that i have perused it again on pdf.

(thanks atlantis!).

does anyone care to toss in their two cents on what are the most outrageous and/or ridiculous claims in it?.

tornapart

I remember walking down the road with my hubby after one book group several years ago (before I 'woke up') and said that if I have to sit through anymore of that 1914-1918 stuff and have one more reference to the 'Cedar Point' convention, that I'd never go to another book study, that it was just plain ridiculous and how do they expect us to believe all that stuff... I must have been waking up even back then LOL

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Tech 49: the 3 F's...Fading, Field Service, and Friends

by Tech49 in

here we are, the family and i, moving along in our slow journey to freedom.

although they are unaware, for the most part, our ship is slowly veering off course.

not enough to cause attention, not enough to trigger alarm bells, but just enough.. since the summer dc, i have watched carefully, as the new releases remain on the coffee table, in plain sight, not touched, more of a decoration that anything.

tornapart

I sometimes wonder if they do know exactly what is happening but either refuse to acknowledge it because they don't want to rock the boat or they wish they could do the same thing as you and don't want to interfere in your life. They can see you're happy so why worry about you? There again they may have so many problems to deal with in their own life that they don't have time to think about anyone else's.

It's going much the same way for me. People ask hubby how I am sometimes but it seems no one has a clue as to what is really happening, or if they do they're not bothered about it. I'm happy about it because it makes it a lot easier for me. My friend is feeling much the same way as your wife, she has said to me that she wants her and I to leave the meeting together as soon as it finishes (during the CO's visit... our husbands are both elders) so we don't get nabbed by the CO's wife for FS. Sounds good to me..I told her I don't do first call anymore anyway, only my return visits that I just pass the time of day with and leave the magazines that they like to read (and have done for years). She told me she was irregular for the first time last month and couldn't care less. I reckon everyone is just getting tired of it all.

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Need Help - Looks like some one in my family got to know that we are fading...

by MissConfused in

letter from a close family member... need help responding.... what a powerful illustration of the affect that our choice of friends can have on us, especially if we leave jehovah after being 'raised' by him from infancy!.

pack of wolvesthere was a farmer who raised sheep and had trouble with wolves stealing his sheep.

he loved his sheep and didn't want to lose even one of them.

tornapart

Get them to watch this series... it uses the 'wolf amongst the sheep' illustration to a much better effect:-

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL37AEF7630FDDBEA7

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Sense of Mortality, Existential Angst and Leaving the Borg

by Frazzled UBM in

firstly apologies if i am stating the bleeding obvious or covering something that has already been covered or just showing my ignorance as someone who wasnever a jw - i am new here and relatively new in my exposure to the wbts organisation and its dogma.

the thing that has occurred to me is that born-in jws and middle-age jws must avoid the teenage existential angst of really getting a sense of their own mortaility and the middle age crisis of realizing that their best years are behind and they on the long downhill slide, because they expect to live forever.

i always wondered why teenage jws are goody two-shoes while they are believers and often go off the rails, even as 20 or 30 something adults, when they wake up and i figure that, apart from the fact that they are no longer being told what is right and wrong and all of a sudden have to work it out for themselves, this may related to the expectation that you will not physically die.

tornapart

Well, I'm a middle-aged born in and it's taken me 2 years to come to some feeling of being somewhat settled. Although I still have moments of anger and frustration. What frustrates me more than anything is my family's and friend's inability to see anything wrong with it all as well. I've had to come to terms with the fact that they just can't see it and I have to accept it. I still want relationships with them so I carry on to keep them happy. However, I carry on in my own way and if they don't like it then it's just too bad. If I have to accept them then they have to accept me too.