Thank you JeffT. I would appreciate finding out about other orgs. I thought AARP was the only org that helped older folk.
pandora
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pandora
You are probably right. It is the actavism that she doesn't like. They actually care about things in their world. She can't be a part of that. What's up with the NGO obsessed guy?
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pandora
No My parents don't have any retirement. Dad gets social security but Mom won't get any for another couple of years. She did tell me to be sure to put money in a retirement plan. I thought that was better than what she used to tell me. Which was, of course, that I wouldn't need any of that stuff. She is realizing that she was wrong on that count, at least. I dont' think she is in denial about her age. There is definately something wrong, in her mind, with being a MEMBER. She said that word with a great amount of disdain. It seems to be the member part that bugs her. She says that they have sent her stuff since she turned 50. And I get the impression she feels she is being a good JW when she throws them in the trash. I guess she is just a lost cause, huh?
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pandora
American Association of Retired Persons (People) Although they have dropped that and are now just known simply as AARP because it is open to anyone 50 and older. Most people who are 50 aren't retired yet.
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pandora
Hi everyone, Haven't been here in a while. Guess that is because I haven't had to deal with my JW mom in a while. But things change and here I am. I have a question for all of you. My wonderful mother is getting up there in age. My step-dad just retired and they are in between insurance companies. I don't think she can get insurance because she isn't old enough for medicaid or medicare. So I, foolishly, suggested that she check into the AARP. Well, that was a mistake. She showed such distain for the org. that I have to wonder why. I haven't been in the religion in 20 years now. So I admit to having lost touch. But I thought they were against you being a part of other RELIGIOUS orgs. Have they closed them off to everything that could be helpful?? Or is my mom just extreme in her views? I hope someone has had some experience with this. Thank you so much for explaining this to me. Jen (P)
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Do you vote now?
by sass_my_frass indo you think it matters?
how long did it take for you to start voting?
was it liberating?.
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pandora
I voted this year. For the first time. I feel that it does count, even if my guy didn't win. Now when I complain about the sitting president, I do it with the knowledge that I tried to get his butt out of there. There just weren't enough of me to get him out. It was really close though. When he screws up as royally as he has recently, I must say, I feel sad that we didn't succeed. IMHO P(J)
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how is your self confidence?
by freelife inone of the things that i have noticed since i have been out of the borg is how my self confidence always seems to be in the dumper.
i don't know if this is beause we were never permited to have any original thoughts or if it is just a personality flaw.
i am always looking for assurance from my fiancee, friends, and coworkers that i am doing good.
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pandora
Well, I'm sure you can tell you are not alone in your problems. I just wanted to chime in a little.
I have been out for a very long time. But a lot of that time was spent believing that I had left 'the truth'. Therefore my self confidence was in the crapper because I just knew that I had done 'wrong'. It's how we are programmed.
I have noticed, since I found this place and the truth about 'the truth', that my self confidence definately went up. It is still not the greatest, and I realize it is a problem that takes time to fix. It doesn't happen overnight or over just one year. It takes many. I am beginning to figure out that I don't deserve to be walked on. It CAN be fixed, but it takes a lot of time.
Give it time. Once you realize that it is something you need to be conscious of and work on, it will work itself out.
-P(J)
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JW's Opposed
by Kenneson inj.w's want to build a 1,000 unit apartment complex at 85 jay st.; it would house some 1,800 witnesses.
but some people don't approve.
see "to watch towers rise.
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pandora
I have to say, I am glad that this subject was broached again. I might have missed it otherwise.
I don't get by here as often as I used to. And my time is very limited. I miss a lot.
Thank you for posting this story again.
-P(J)
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Any fan of Food Network?
by sunshineToo ini love most of their shows especially 30 -min.
meal, tyler's ultimate, food 911 and goodeats, and not to mention all the competitions and iron chef.
i'm learning a lot.
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pandora
I watch that channel all weekend long. My favorite is "Good Eats". Alton Brown is the Bill Nye of food. I highly recommend the show.
-P(J)
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HELP!!! HELP!!!! HELP!!!!!!
by proudassmonkey inok i need some help from who ever has dealt w. their jw parents.
this is the email i got from my parents: .
dear melissa, .
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pandora
in their eyes the FDS has never been wrong. they are so brainwashed NOTHING will open their eyes.
i have been trying for soooo long and it doesn't work. i seriously can not try any more. they haven't done anything to see things from where i stand. i just want to be accepted for who and what i am. and it hurts so much not to be. i want to feel bad for getting out. but that little voice inside my head sings everyday FREEDOM!!!!!!!!!!!! and i just smile and hold my head higher because i know i can think for myself. i can think whatever i want whenever i want.
can i be the one to cut off my parents?Melissa-
I'm a "Johny come lately" to this party but I just had to let you know what I think.
I think your above words are a good enough reply to them. Tweek it a little to make the statement TO them instead of ABOUT them, but keep the sentiment. Your above statements are valid.
I think you should definately tell them that they expect you to understand their point of view, but as you stated above, they "haven't done anything to see things from where YOU stand." Tell them that you want to be excepted for who and what you are. They want the same thing.
And they SHOULD be told that their actions hurt you. Not in making you ashamed, but hurting you from a family standpoint. These two raised you and promised unconditional love. How dare they take that away now. They don't have that right.
I think your comment about being able to think for yourself is VERY important here. In some way it needs to be included. They need to see that you know they CAN'T think for themselves. It is subtle, but it might do the trick.
Your honest thoughts and feelings are all you can give them. You don't have to argue points. Argue love.
Just my thoughts. Big Hugs to you, because my parents are the same to me. I do know how you feel.
-P(J)