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  Will Watchtower “simplify” the baptism arrangement at circuit assemblies?

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  watchtower ever “simplifies” its “arrangements”.

  no more food.

  one-day circuit assemblies…no more “special assembly day”--it was a sad occasion anyways.

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  Londo111

  Ha! I could see it now: walk up to the baptismal pool, put your palm up and walk around without getting in. Only the 144000 can get in the water.
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  Will Watchtower “simplify” the baptism arrangement at circuit assemblies?

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  watchtower ever “simplifies” its “arrangements”.

  no more food.

  one-day circuit assemblies…no more “special assembly day”--it was a sad occasion anyways.

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  Londo111

  I never knew this was a practice in the past. Yes, this would seem to be the reason for them to make the change, to make more of an impression.

  To have 0 baptisms has to be awkward.
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  Will Watchtower “simplify” the baptism arrangement at circuit assemblies?

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  watchtower ever “simplifies” its “arrangements”.

  no more food.

  one-day circuit assemblies…no more “special assembly day”--it was a sad occasion anyways.

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  Londo111

  Watchtower ever “simplifies” its “arrangements”. No more food. One-day circuit assemblies…no more “Special Assembly Day”--it was a SAD occasion anyways.

  When I was baptized at a circuit assembly in 1987, there were dozens upon dozens who were dunked with me, some actual converts from “field service”. Nowadays, there are a handful of teenage born-ins. Sometimes there is only one. Occasionally, the baptismal talk is given, but nobody gets dunked. That must be embarrassing for Watchtower and create some cognitive dissociate for those attending.

  How long until they simply drop circuit assembly baptisms altogether? Save it for the “regional”…which I bet eventually will only be two-days.

  Pure speculation, I know.

  I’m sure the letter announcing it would say, “We are pleased to announce a simplification in regard the arrangement for baptism.”
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  Who Owns the Copyright to Crisis of Conscience?

  by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  recently there was a thread where someone asked if there was a copy of crisis of conscience they could purchase.

  raymond franz it seems had limited resources yet he was able to provide crisis of conscience in printed form to what?

  thousands?

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  All promises that this would be available soon did not hold up. Perhaps it is "right around the corner"?

  I do wonder what in the world happened.

  At this point, I cannot fault anyone who distributes this book freely online.
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  What was it like being a JW in the 1960's and 1970's

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  this is obviously a question for the older generation.

  i'm really curious what it was like to be a witness in the 60's and 70's?.

  was the society as strict as it is today?.

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  Londo111

  I was born in the 70's--so my JW memories of the time are few and hazy.

  I remember the early 80's a little better...and can compare it to the 90's and all the way up to 2009 or so. And my memories of the late 70's and early 80's were a more of a inclusive, social group. Renting out skating rinks. Large congregation gatherings. JWs seemed warmer, friendlier and more sincere.

  As Sir82 pointed out: JWs were readers, knew their own teachings and could argue them at length at the door.
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  "Taking the "Lead" vs. "Leader"

  by sir82 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the wt articles for the past 2 weeks were the typical every-3-months-or-so attempt at justifying the sovereignty of the jw popes, the governing body.. aside from the usual specious reasoning and ridiculous assertions, i noted this:.

  the articles went through great semantic pains to emphasize that, for the jws, jesus is "the leader", while the gb are merely "those taking the lead".. what, exactly, is the difference between a "leader" vs. "one who is taking the lead"?.

  in what other sphere of human experience is such semantic pretzel logic even close to rational?.

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  Londo111

  Wordplay of those who want it both ways.

  JWs have human leaders in the form of a top-down hierarchy, emanating from the Governing Body on down to the local body of elders. This leadership more pronounced than in most churches and denominations. It is enforced leadership...those who do not obey the leaders are subject to secret backroom trials and extreme penalties that people in most religions do not experience.
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  "jesus never said the spiritual food would be perfect"

  by nowwhat? in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  oh so it's jesus fault the spiritual food hasn't been perfect!

  we your governing body are just responsible for serving it!

  think about this people, they are saying it was jesus who told us the end was going to come in 1975. then before the 1914 generation passed away no later than the 1990's.

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  When other religions don't have something right, change their teachings, or have a scandal, failed endtime predictions--it's because they are part of Babylon the Great the World Empire of False Religion and deserve violent destruction.

  When Watchtower does it: shrug. Nobody's perfect.

  With so many "clarified" teachings, when did the Truth become the Truth?
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  Confused trying to understand JW GF or soon to be EX

  by James87 in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i dont know where to start so why not at the beginning.

  i was seeing this girl and we hit it off great chemistry.

  it went from a physical to a deeper relationship.

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  Londo111

  Maybe you should read this guy's posts on the Reddit forum:

  https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/683psi/my_experience_dating_a_jw_my_version_of_waking_up/
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  Hanging out with JWs is exhausting!

  by StephaneLaliberte in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  not long ago, there was a funeral for a sister i haven’t know very much, so i did not attend.

  however, some old “friends” i know drove down to town to assist and i ended up spending some time with them.

  quite honestly, i was happy to see them again.

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  Londo111

  I've never experienced this with coworkers. I'm always myself around them and they seem themselves as well.

  With JWs, that's another story. I can so relate.
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  Circuit Overseer's Idiotic Comment

  by FedUpJW in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  at last night's clam the circuit overseer made this comment, "we elders sometimes have to act as judges in the congregation.

  but we (the elders) are imperfect, and so cannot know everything about judicial matters.

  that is why we (the elders) have the biblical rule that there must be at least two witnesses to wrongdoing.

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  Londo111

  Do you have a link to that?