Posts by Londo111

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My Boyfriend is a recent Ex Jehovah Witness

by whatisthis12 in

i have been dating my boyfriend for almost a year now.

when i met him i had no idea that he was a jehovah witness.

we took a vacation and he lied to his parents about who he was with, and they ended up finding out not only that he way lying, but who i was.

Londo111

Imagine this scenario:

Down the road you and your boyfriend decided to have children. There's a terrible car accident and your child needs a blood transfusion if they are going to live. Imagine he responds before you do (perhaps you are unconscious as well). Will he allow the child to have a blood transfusion?

Heck...imagine YOU need the blood transfusion to save your life and are unconscious. Will he try to prevent the blood transfusion?

What about fractions of blood? Will his conscience allow them? What if the fraction isn't a "conscience matter" as defined by Watchtower?

Imagine this...what if he takes the kid the Kingdom Hall on occasion? Or decides he wants to have someone at the Kingdom Hall "study" with the kid (perhaps secretly...this has happened). Imagine this...the elders are aware that one of the JWs has molested children in the past, but have not warned the parents. In fact, that JW still goes door-to-door. Or perhaps the elders have heard of reports about a JW, but because there aren't "two witnesses" to the molestation, their hands are tied and they can't do anything about it.

There are all sorts of nightmare scenarios if he is not mentally out. His parents would be actively attempting to study with and makes sure any children become JWs.

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The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name

by slimboyfat in

jehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.

but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .

i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.

Londo111

Yep another good point.

Jehovah = YHWH + the vowels of Adoni

It was the result of a misunderstanding of a medieval Catholic scholar.

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My Boyfriend is a recent Ex Jehovah Witness

by whatisthis12 in

i have been dating my boyfriend for almost a year now.

when i met him i had no idea that he was a jehovah witness.

we took a vacation and he lied to his parents about who he was with, and they ended up finding out not only that he way lying, but who i was.

Londo111

Yep...I think what OneEyedJoe said is the most comprehensive comment on this thus far. Read and reread it.

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so confused!!

by whatisthis12 in

is it possible to keep a somewhat relationship with your family if they are witnesses and have a "worldly" girlfriend?

i just posted a post, and found this site to be very helpful.

sorry to repost but my other thread brought up some other questions.

Londo111

At the convention last year, they instructed JWs to shun those inactive who are committing things that could get them disfellowshipped, even if the elders have not dealt with them.

If he is going to hear his sister spew cult nonsense from the platform and expose himself to the indoctrination sessions at the convention, he is not mentally awake. He will hear things that will turn the levers of Fear, Obligation and Guilt in his heart and mind. It might cause him to "return".

He needs to wake up and see the cult for what it is. He needs to see the mind control. He needs to see the history, scandals and secrets the cult does not reveal. But if he is still under their influence, if you come on too strong against the cult, he will run from you.

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The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name

by slimboyfat in

jehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.

but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .

i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.

Londo111

While there are a few copies of the Septuagint where YHWH was used, there is no positive proof that YHWH appeared in the New Testament or that early Christian groups used the divine name. There is conjecture and guesswork by some scholars, but that is not positive evidence that firmly establishes it.

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My Boyfriend is a recent Ex Jehovah Witness

by whatisthis12 in

i have been dating my boyfriend for almost a year now.

when i met him i had no idea that he was a jehovah witness.

we took a vacation and he lied to his parents about who he was with, and they ended up finding out not only that he way lying, but who i was.

Londo111

This relationship could work.

Just make sure he wakes up mentally 100%.

Otherwise, a hardship in life or world events could shake him and he could return. And that would doom your relationship. If you are married by that time, it would make for some tough challenges.

People who are physically out will often still defend it. Often they don't understand that it is not "the Truth". Or even if they don't believe in the Bible anymore, they still believe it's the one closest to what the Bible teaches. Even if they know it's not the truth or representative of the Bible or Christianity, they don't understand it was a cult and they don't understand the mind control that they themselves and their loved ones were subjected to. It's very important to come to those realizations.

If he is not waking up, it will take a matter of nuance in helping him do so...if you force it, it could badly backfire.

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How old would Br. Franz be today if he overlapped himself?

by waton in

`~39, and ~ 59+ years more to go .

Londo111

Does this require some form of time travel?

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Facebook shuts ex j-dub site for "hate speech"

by GoneAwol in

sorry if this has been posted, havnt had much time to look..

Londo111

Hopefully this discussion will not disappear.

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JW Parents and kicking out their children

by NJ501 in

is it a common practice for jw parents to kick their children out of the home, if the child doesn't want to be a jw.

(even though their not disfellowshipped they will still get kicked out for not going to meetings etc.??).

do other religions encourage kicking family members out this as well?

Londo111

When I was 17, 2 years after I was baptized, I had major doubts and wanted to leave the religion. My family had a meltdown over it. My father basically told me that the moment I turned 18, I'd be kicked out. Until then, he wanted me to pay rent.

They also called the elders, who basically bamboozled me into believing it was "the truth" again. Ultimately I didn't leave and got sucked in until age 39 or 40.

I was basically a good kid. I wasn't smoking, drinking, doing drugs. I wasn't dating either or sleeping with anyone. My only fault was that I no longer believed it was "the truth". Of course, my father was an elder...at this time, he may have been PO, but I can't remember.

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JW renaming things: "It's Not this, it's ....."

by Muddy Waters in

this was brought up in another thread, but i thought it should have its own thread.

feel free to add your own observations and experience.

the jws are so duplicit, and they rename things to somehow justify their own irrationalities.

Londo111

It's not Grace, it's UNDESERVED kindness.

It's not the New Testament, it's the Christian Greek Scriptures.

It's not a cross, it's a stake.

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Every cult has a loaded language.

By creating your own vocabulary and creative redefinition, you can control how people think.