Posts by Londo111

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Which Watchtower publications did you keep?

by Schnufti in

i'm currently cleaning up our bookcase and need to decide what goes into the trash.

i'll keep the watchtower books that are not available online anymore (e.g.

the brown "reasoning" book).

Londo111

I've held onto some of it for research, but now I'm getting rid of it all as I find it.

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what is the craziest book the dubbers ever published?

by dogon in

so i was wondering what book is the nuttiest they ever printed?

i know there are several in contention for first place but which is your vote for no 1?

also if you don't mind post a bit of what is in the book you pick to show why you picked it.

due to last years success, i will post everything related to the 2017 regional convention in this thread.. to start us off.... thanks to exjw reddit user ich3b we have advance notice of the theme (this is not a joke!).

the theme for the 2017 regional convention is: "don’t give up!” .

as always, if you have access to confidential materials you would like to leak but need to protect your identity, pm me or email me: wifibandit1 (at) gmail.

Londo111

"the end is imminent"

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 4-30-2017 WT Study (WHO IS LEADING) IN PARTS

by blondie in

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friends

blondie’s comments you will not hear at the april 30, 2017 wt study (february 2017) (who is leading).

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/watchtower-study-february-2017/who-is-leading-gods-people-today/ .

excellent general website: www.jwfacts.com .

Londo111

He discerned that Christ would return invisibly and that “the appointed times of the nations” would end in 1914

Very misleading. Russell believed Christ had returned invisibly in 1874. Of course, he didn't come up with this...he got this, along with 1914, from Nelson Barbour.

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Will Watchtower “simplify” the baptism arrangement at circuit assemblies?

by Londo111 in

watchtower ever “simplifies” its “arrangements”.

no more food.

one-day circuit assemblies…no more “special assembly day”--it was a sad occasion anyways.

Londo111

Ha! I could see it now: walk up to the baptismal pool, put your palm up and walk around without getting in. Only the 144000 can get in the water.

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Will Watchtower “simplify” the baptism arrangement at circuit assemblies?

by Londo111 in

watchtower ever “simplifies” its “arrangements”.

no more food.

one-day circuit assemblies…no more “special assembly day”--it was a sad occasion anyways.

Londo111

I never knew this was a practice in the past. Yes, this would seem to be the reason for them to make the change, to make more of an impression.

To have 0 baptisms has to be awkward.

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Will Watchtower “simplify” the baptism arrangement at circuit assemblies?

by Londo111 in

watchtower ever “simplifies” its “arrangements”.

no more food.

one-day circuit assemblies…no more “special assembly day”--it was a sad occasion anyways.

Londo111

Watchtower ever “simplifies” its “arrangements”. No more food. One-day circuit assemblies…no more “Special Assembly Day”--it was a SAD occasion anyways.

When I was baptized at a circuit assembly in 1987, there were dozens upon dozens who were dunked with me, some actual converts from “field service”. Nowadays, there are a handful of teenage born-ins. Sometimes there is only one. Occasionally, the baptismal talk is given, but nobody gets dunked. That must be embarrassing for Watchtower and create some cognitive dissociate for those attending.

How long until they simply drop circuit assembly baptisms altogether? Save it for the “regional”…which I bet eventually will only be two-days.

Pure speculation, I know.

I’m sure the letter announcing it would say, “We are pleased to announce a simplification in regard the arrangement for baptism.”

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Who Owns the Copyright to Crisis of Conscience?

by Hold Me-Thrill Me in

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recently there was a thread where someone asked if there was a copy of crisis of conscience they could purchase.

raymond franz it seems had limited resources yet he was able to provide crisis of conscience in printed form to what?

thousands?

Londo111

All promises that this would be available soon did not hold up. Perhaps it is "right around the corner"?

I do wonder what in the world happened.

At this point, I cannot fault anyone who distributes this book freely online.

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What was it like being a JW in the 1960's and 1970's

by UnshackleTheChains in

this is obviously a question for the older generation.

i'm really curious what it was like to be a witness in the 60's and 70's?.

was the society as strict as it is today?.

Londo111

I was born in the 70's--so my JW memories of the time are few and hazy.

I remember the early 80's a little better...and can compare it to the 90's and all the way up to 2009 or so. And my memories of the late 70's and early 80's were a more of a inclusive, social group. Renting out skating rinks. Large congregation gatherings. JWs seemed warmer, friendlier and more sincere.

As Sir82 pointed out: JWs were readers, knew their own teachings and could argue them at length at the door.

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"Taking the "Lead" vs. "Leader"

by sir82 in

the wt articles for the past 2 weeks were the typical every-3-months-or-so attempt at justifying the sovereignty of the jw popes, the governing body.. aside from the usual specious reasoning and ridiculous assertions, i noted this:.

the articles went through great semantic pains to emphasize that, for the jws, jesus is "the leader", while the gb are merely "those taking the lead".. what, exactly, is the difference between a "leader" vs. "one who is taking the lead"?.

in what other sphere of human experience is such semantic pretzel logic even close to rational?.

Londo111

Wordplay of those who want it both ways.

JWs have human leaders in the form of a top-down hierarchy, emanating from the Governing Body on down to the local body of elders. This leadership more pronounced than in most churches and denominations. It is enforced leadership...those who do not obey the leaders are subject to secret backroom trials and extreme penalties that people in most religions do not experience.