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  Rutherford and Elevators -- All Others Use the Stairs

  by VM44 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  during the olin moyle court case, some of the "jehovah's witnesses" witnesses were asked on the stand if they knew if the elevators were held at ground floor at lunchtime so that rutherford would not have to wait to use them when he returned to the building.. other people had to use the stairs; the elevators had to be kept ready for rutherford.. the jw witnesses denied knowing anything about this.

  but in reading the transcript of the trial, one gets the impression that none of the jws wanted to admit anything negative about rutherford, for instance, that rutherford would give "trimmings" (verbal scolding) to individuals at lunchtime was not readily admitted by even clayton woodworth, a person who had direct experience being reprimanded by the "judge"!.

  trying to get info from the witnesses appeared to be like squeezing water from a stone!

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  Londo111

  I was thinking the same thing.

  There does not seem to be any indication that the Judge physically assaulted anyone, but he did seem to be emotionally abuse and just as angry. And used the organization's resources for his own personal gain.
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  Rutherford and Elevators -- All Others Use the Stairs

  by VM44 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  during the olin moyle court case, some of the "jehovah's witnesses" witnesses were asked on the stand if they knew if the elevators were held at ground floor at lunchtime so that rutherford would not have to wait to use them when he returned to the building.. other people had to use the stairs; the elevators had to be kept ready for rutherford.. the jw witnesses denied knowing anything about this.

  but in reading the transcript of the trial, one gets the impression that none of the jws wanted to admit anything negative about rutherford, for instance, that rutherford would give "trimmings" (verbal scolding) to individuals at lunchtime was not readily admitted by even clayton woodworth, a person who had direct experience being reprimanded by the "judge"!.

  trying to get info from the witnesses appeared to be like squeezing water from a stone!

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  Londo111

  An interesting read.
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  To "A Believer" and other JW's that lurk or participate.

  by goingthruthemotions in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  you think that coming to this site or other anti-jw sites and showing you support for the org is noble.

  knowing how brainwashed you are makes me cringe and disgustes me and i am sure others here on the forum.

  becasue your in a cult and can't see it.

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  Londo111

  Sometimes I had to wonder if this person was simply toying with this forum.
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  Short stay

  by midnight in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  after much research and prayer i am returning to being a jehovah's witness i can find nothing that eliminates them from being god's directed people , in the end they will reach the end of there journey despite mistakes and errors just like the israelites entered the promised land , thanks for your input and all the best on your personal journey ☺.

  midnight..

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  Londo111

  Personally, the more research I did, the more I found this organization could not be the "one true religion". It is very falsifiable. As the years go by, the more and more apparent this is.
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  In praise of Randall Watters

  by nicolaou in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  exjw's of a certain age will remember randy's site well.

  freeminds was instrumental in waking me up along with ray franz's books.

  if net soup and armageddon okies mean nothing to you you're probably under 30.. whatever caused randy to post what he did recently is something i can only guess at but it won't be what i remember him for.. randy, i wish you well and thank you for all you've done over the years .

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  When I first started waking up, I enjoyed reading the stories on Freeminds of former Bethelites. Of course, I didn't believe any of it at first, but eventually I began seeing the consistency from multiple people that lent credibility to what they were experiencing.
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  "Matthew 5:5 Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth."

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  now that im not longer a jw this verse puzzles me.

  being born and raised a witness, this verse confirmed to me that jesus was talking about a paradise on earth.

  but now that everything the witnesses taught is 99.99% incorrect can somone explain what he was getting at here?

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  Londo111

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_5:5
  

  One would need to examine the theology of the writer of Matthew, who was writing from a Jewish/Torah-keeping viewpoint. In this view, the Messiah would rule over an earthly kingdom. The theology of other writers didn't necessarily have the exact same viewpoint...for instance, the write of John.

  The official creeds of many Christian denominations do teach variations on the idea that Christ returns to the earth and brings about paradisaic conditions. Of course, the viewpoint of individuals in these denominations might differ from person to person as each is usually free to come to their own conclusions, or at least aren't excommunicated and shunned if they do.
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  Where the need is greater: TTATT in Spanish

  by Londo111 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  it seems most of the us growth is in spanish-speaking territory, and of course, there is growth in the nations where spanish is the predominant language.

  most sites oriented around ttatt, are english-speaking.

  there seems then to be a great need for translators...for instance, imagine if there was a spanish version of www.jwfacts.com.. unfortunately, i dont speak this language.

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  Thanks for the update!
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  1917 - What REALLY happened?

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  regarding what happened post russell in 1917, if you ask a jw, they'll say it was the fault of the ousted board members who were 'self willed'.

  if you ask an ex-jw, they'll say it was a 'power grab' by rutherford.

  the latest yearbook elaborates on the situation:.

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  Londo111

  It is the classic story of power struggle. The founder dies. Successors clamor to seize control. History is written by the victors.
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  Not one visit, 8 years in a nursing home, and not one visit!

  by Raymudas Martini in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my dad{rip}, was a faithful jw since the year i was born, i'm 60, he died 2 years ago.

  his last 12 years were spent in an assisted living/nursing home right in the small town where he spent the last 8 years of being an elder/pioneer.

  when he went into the home, one brother would visit him regularly, but after 4 years, that friend moved away, and visitation from the locals ceased, for 8 years!!!!!!!

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  Londo111

  I noticed this with my own grandparents. A few did come to visit, but by in large, out of sight, out of mind.
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  There is a NEW Songbook?!

  by My Name is of No Consequence in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am not talking about the one that the org came out with in 2010. i am talking about a new one that just came out.

  it is completely different or is it just the 135 songs from the 2010 songbook plus the 16 that they have rolled out since then?

  my head is spinning!.

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  Londo111

  It is unusual because the brown songbook seemed to be around for decades.

  I wonder if this is the reason why the new song book was replaced:

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/285087/pornography-on-back-songbook-sing-jehovah

  That and David Splane fancies himself a maestro.