Posts by Londo111

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With up to 70% of young ones leaving what's the future of the jw's?

by karter in

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friends

they wlll always have new people coming in but the majority of the congro's are getting older particularly the inner city ones were it is expensive to live.

they are struggling to get men to be elders and m.s's and this can only get worse as very few young ones stay around.

karter..

Londo111

It's a cult. Not everyone gets or remains indoctrinated.

99.99% of those preached to are not interested and most who do study eventually quit along the way.

Those who are born-in do not have a choice but to undergo the indoctrination process. But even so, only a minority get and stay indoctrinated. Even for those indoctrinated, eventually some do fall afoul of the many rules and find themselves thrown out.

I wish I had been smart enough to get while the getting was good like most of the other kids who I grew up with.

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Imperfect Spiritual Food

by berrygerry in

the feb 2017 wt is being reviewed here because of the "neither inspired nor infallible" potential of the gb.. https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6237447308443648/major-doctrinal-changes-must-on-way.

this indeed has been stated in the past.. an equally interesting phrase in that paragraph is: "of course, jesus did not tell us that his faithful slave would produce perfect spiritual food.".

again, wt is using the "jesus never said" line.. what would make more sense is: "jesus never said that the food would be imperfect or harmless.".

Londo111

Matthew 24:45 is the most important Watchtower teaching, but is not a self-consistent teaching, which Captives of a Concept deftly dissected.

The "spiritual food" served should be "faithful and discreet", so while not expecting "perfection", one simply could look over the years to examine whether the spiritual food was faithful and discreet. An examination of this history shows teachings that were far, far from this.

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Major Doctrinal Changes Must Be On The Way

by notsurewheretogo in

the statement in the article "who is leading gods people today?

" in the feb 17th study edition of the wt is very interesting.. it states: ""the g.b.

is neither inspired nor infallible" ..we can err .in doctrinal matters....".

Londo111

I agree that a symbolic 144000 meaning an small, unspecified number would not be that radical.

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Why Is it the Girls who Hang in There?

by snugglebunny in

jw
friends

having seen many, many people leave the org over the years, i have to say that, when it comes to married couples, it's almost always the man who makes the first move to leave.

conversely, when it comes to being converted into the witnesses, more often than not it's the wife who joins up first.

although that wasn't the case with my own parents, my father became converted and my mother followed very reluctantly..

Londo111

The JW culture is not one that encourages education and I think the culture tends to mold women to be even more on the uneducated than even a male JW.

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Halloween, Day of the Dead, the Flood, yada yada yada

by schnell in

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friends

my local public radio station today had a piece about dia de los muertos, and after all this time, i was surprised to learn that this day was actually moved to november by the spanish from september.

so much for all that "halloween/all saints/day of the dead celebrates the flood!

" nonsense.

Londo111

And today is a special Halloween since it was 100 years ago today that Russell died, dressed in a toga.

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Letter Regarding Russell's Death

by Bangalore in

letter regarding russell's death.. .

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bangalore.

Londo111

Toga! Toga! Toga!

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The Standfasters

by dust in

i don't know where to ask, but this section is probably better than both the medical section and the entertainment section.

:) .

does anyone know what eventually happened to the standfasters?

Londo111

I meant to say buy war bonds.

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The Standfasters

by dust in

i don't know where to ask, but this section is probably better than both the medical section and the entertainment section.

:) .

does anyone know what eventually happened to the standfasters?

Londo111

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHhhotG9Ipw&feature=youtu.be

This video was interesting. But something stood out, a point he makes a little after the 40 minute mark.

In 1919, why didn't Jesus select the Elijah voice society (Standfathers) as the Faithful Slave? After all, Rutherford encouraged the Bible Students to sell war bonds, but the Standfathers were against this. And they taught all the same stuff (no Trinity, no immorality of the soul), ect..

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Another Outright Lie Published 2/17 WT

by LostGeneration in

this info is from the article "who is leading god's people today" feb 17 study edition.. to help them disseminate bible truth in various languages, zion’s watch tower tract society was legally incorporated in 1884, with brother russell as president.

* he was an outstanding student of the bible, and he fearlessly exposed as false such doctrines as the trinity and the immortality of the soul.

he discerned that christ would return invisibly and that “the appointed times of the nations” would end in 1914.. pretty sickening article overall about how badass the gb is, though this little gem is printed as well, paragraph 12. the governing body is neither inspired nor infallible.

Londo111

The wordplay is interesting: He discerned that Christ would return invisibly and that “the appointed times of the nations” would end in 1914.

In a certain way, the sentence is technically true. Russell taught Christ had returned invisibly in 1874 and he believed the Gentile times would end in 1914. Of course, it is highly misleading...the rank and file would read this as Russell teaching the invisible presence would begin in 1914.

But then again, they just said they could err. They just demonstrated it.

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JW's and the forgotten Jesus

by LevelThePlayingField in

so as i have been waking up more and more over the past 3 years...i keep telling myself i'm fully awake and then i wake up more, but that's a different thread.

but anyway, i've noticed a lot lately that the wt does not mention jesus or christ very much in their literature and neither to jw's in their conversations.

they mainly talk about jehovah.

Londo111

In Watchtower theology, Jesus is the most outstanding member of God's organization, but still a member. The organization is still greater in this mindset.