Posts by Londo111

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Why Do People Become Jehovah's Witnesses?

by minimus in

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besides being raised in the religion , why do people become jws?

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Londo111

It's been said that often people have previously encountered some tragedy in their life, or change or stress, that predisposes a person. A death of a love one. Moving to an area where they've few friends.

People don't plan on becoming JWs. It is a low and slow process. They are introduced to teachings that make some sort of sense, they decide to learn more without thinking they will commit to anything. They are not exposed to contrary information sources and are warned against it.

They might not believe everything, but they make a few changes to their behavior, and their beliefs soon align to their behavior. That starts a cycle of modifying their behavior to more align with their beliefs, which aligns their minds to the beliefs ever more, ect...

They like getting attention from JWs visiting them...that leads to meeting invites where they are lovebombed. They mostly only see the positive, public face. It's hard to reconcile anything negative (however true) with this lovebombing. Even if they don't agree with some things initially, all they see is nice, "loving" people and they want more of whatever it is they feel they have that makes them that way.

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Joseph and his generation

by maninthemiddle in

so the wt used ex 1:6 to define a generation from the very beginning.

then in the this september broadcast the same person (splain) who spent 20 min with charts to explain a generation, makes a point that joseph and his brothers were very close in age?

(min 4:29).

Londo111

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojCp5tgWXz8&index=7&list=PLyNx0oM_bmgAxVYyFIhblMu4Mo1PeMxn1

With the principle of exegesis, one would let the writer of Matthew define what a generation is. Matthew 1 shows that generations do not overlap.

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Any word on the annual meeting?

by careful in

have all the leaks at ny bethel been discovered, or are there still some who are revealing the inner secrets beforehand?

i haven't seen anything here about the annual meeting just a month away now.

anyone have any real info on it?.

Londo111

When is the meeting?

Anybody attending?

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I've been in love with a Jehovah Witness without knowing it for a long time, he hid it from everyone.

by sakurafeathers in

hello :) so i know this guy for almost 6 years, i met him when i was 15 and i felt in love.

now i’m 21 and he is 22. we were in the same class and got along very well and he seemed to like me too.

when i confessed, face to face he haven't admitted and he haven't denied it and he acted like he liked me too but couldn't be with me because reasons bigger than him, but i was too young to understand and he was young to handle the pressure he had.

Londo111

It could be that he is struggling with his feelings for you and his years of indoctrination and being lost in a mental maze. Understand that if he pursues a relationship with you, it will likely impact his relationship with his family and friends.

At the very least, he might be "marked", which means a talk will be given about him, and everyone who knows the situation will have to withdraw socially. At most, going down this road might get him disfellowshipped, where everyone he knows would have to shun him, not even saying hello if they see him.

Make no mistake that it is a cult...too often have people come on this forum in this same situation and it rarely ends well for anyone.

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Is the Jesus of religion conservative, and the Jesus of the New Testament liberal?

by Fernando in

is the jesus of religion conservative, and the jesus of the new testament liberal?.

your thoughts?.

Londo111

The message of Jesus of Nazareth certainly seems very misaligned from conservative politics. I don't comprehend how many in the US who claim to follow Jesus and his message marry the two. It seems fundamentally incompatible.

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Visit From Jehovah's Witnesses

by Vanderhoven7 in

had two lovely jws (stephen and ruth) visit this morning.

this was our second study in the last 2 weeks.

they first knocked on my door (bell is out) 3 weeks ago and i shared my testimony and we arranged to meet last tuesday which we did.. our first study went like this:.

Londo111

I’m very relativistic in outlook…to me there are unhealthy paths and healthier ones, but no one size fits all. Unless it’s into another totalitarian cult, any spiritual path to a healthier outlook than what the Watchtower mandates is a good one.

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Visit From Jehovah's Witnesses

by Vanderhoven7 in

had two lovely jws (stephen and ruth) visit this morning.

this was our second study in the last 2 weeks.

they first knocked on my door (bell is out) 3 weeks ago and i shared my testimony and we arranged to meet last tuesday which we did.. our first study went like this:.

Londo111

JWs often practice theocratic warfare without even knowing it. It's amazing how they can deceive without intending to in order to present the organization in a good light.

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Did Crisis of Conscience find a market or did it lumber along until the copies ran out?

by TerryWalstrom in

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curiosity.i would think c of c was the grand-daddy of all the ex-jw books.is there any way to know for sure how many copies sold?

over what span of time before the 1st edition ended?

why did it peter out of print if it was a perennial seller?today, every tom, dick, and jasper has self-published the bleeding wound, 1st person singular, true confessional version of their own fall from grace.

Londo111

I think what made Crisis of Conscience so effective (as well as the followup book which is an extension of the first) is that it was not an “angry bitter” expose, “sour grapes” woe is me, nor was it a scandalous tell all. It was not anything like I was expecting. It was kind and reasonable in tone and very fair, while giving us a frank view of the inner workings of the Watchtower organization from a viewpoint few former JWs ever had.

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Jehovah`s Witnesses Boasted They have No Clergy Laity Class ?

by smiddy in

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well that`s what was impressed on me to differentiate between the true religion and false religion , when i was converted in 1960 , do they still claim that ?

believing that they still do , i will say this.. what about ,:the governing body who definitely are set apart from the rank and file for their attitude towards the r&f , but also from the attitude of the r&f towards the governing body members.many do seem to idolise gb members by their actions , and the gb members dont seem to discourage that.. and not only for their attitude , how about their life-style , being housed in bethel with all the mod -cons of modern civilization as opposed to a r&f member living in a third world country .does the wt society do anything to make their lifestyle improve ?

{ did jesus have a place to rest his head ?

Londo111

I believe it was Jim Penton who pointed out that JWs have a more pronounced hierarchy than most denominations in "Christendom".

Indeed, more important than getting paid (which as has been pointed out circuit overseers on up get forms of compensation), is the question of how much authority such an individual has over the rank and file. What happens to an individual do does not follow the direction or agree with the clergyman or priest or pastor or elder? In most denominations: nothing!

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The elusive song 151 makes an appearance.

by SadElder in

the missing song 151 now titled "the revealing of god's sons" shows up with the september edition of tv.jw.

no words or score on the jw page yet.

can't say that it sounds any different than any of the other songs they produce now.

Londo111

Is there a link to this? I don't think I could stomach to watch...but I wouldn't mind reading the lyrics.